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03:28 < dooglus> hi pabs
03:28 < dooglus> I took a quick look at your libavcodec changes
03:29 < dooglus> I had libavcodec installed, but not libavformat.  configure told me it found libavcodec, but that it wasn't going to use it, and didn't tell me why.
03:29 < dooglus> combining the 2 into a single search makes it clearer:
03:30 < dooglus> PKG_CHECK_MODULES(LIBAVCODEC, [libavcodec libavformat],[],[echo no; with_libavcodec="no"])
03:30 < pabs3> yeah, my autoconf foo is not up to scratch
03:30 < dooglus> mine neither
03:31 < dooglus> that 'echo no' looks wrong, but how else do you get configure to print the 'no' when it fails to find an optional library?
03:32 < dooglus> shall I check in my change to the automake stuff?
03:33 < pabs3> just wanna test it out first, one sec
03:34  * pabs3 removes libavformat-dev
03:35 < pabs3> you'll need to modify the mod_libavcodec Makefile.am too
03:35 < dooglus> patch: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/synfig/automake.txt
03:35 < dooglus> yes
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03:41 < pabs3> I think part of it is the fkn ancient pkgconfig.m4 file we are using. just overwrote it with one from sid and "PKG_CHECK_MODULES(LIBAVCODEC, [libavcodec libavformat],[with_libavcodec="yes"],[with_libavcodec="no"])" gives me "checking for LIBAVCODEC... no"
03:41 < pabs3> (after I uninstalled libavformat-dev)
03:44 < dooglus> oh, i see
03:44 < pabs3> still doesn't say why it couldn't find libavcodec
03:45 < pabs3> all those m4 files need to be ripped out of svn IMO
03:46 < pabs3> testing yr patch now
03:46 < dooglus> with my patch I see:
03:46 < dooglus> checking for libavcodec libavformat2... no
03:46 < dooglus> (I didn't uninstall libavcodec-dev - I edited the dependency to be libavformat2...
03:46 < dooglus> )
03:47 < dooglus> so it doesn't tell me which of the 2 it failed to find, but it narrows it down to the 2 possibilities
03:49 < pabs3> looks good when libavformat-dev isn't available, testing when both are available
03:50 < pabs3> btw, I think we should change the output at the bottom to mention plugins rather than configure flags
03:50 < pabs3> configure options I mean
03:51 < pabs3> hmm: config.status: WARNING:  synfig-config.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting
03:51 < pabs3> dooglus: ok, looks good, commit away
03:52 < dooglus> r274 | dooglus | 2007-03-08 03:52:24 +0100 (Thu, 08 Mar 2007) | 2 lines
03:52 < dooglus> Combine the check for libavcodec and libavformat into a single search.  Only if they're both found do we build the libavcodec plugin.
03:53 < pabs3> coolies
03:53 < dooglus> I'm contining to have problems with the 'revert' and 'close' functions
03:53 < dooglus> they no longer crash, but they're not clean, either
03:54 < dooglus> if you 'revert' a file over and over, each time you do it the output on stdout gets bigger by 80 lines or so
03:55 < pabs3> eeew
03:55 < pabs3> revert as in reload the file from disk?
03:56 < pabs3> methinks time to add a news item
03:57 < dooglus> yes, reloading from disk
03:57 < dooglus> oh - and it does still crash, but nowhere near as regularly as it used to
03:58 < pabs3> ok
03:59 < dooglus> what news item?
03:59 < pabs3> just about synfig happenings. I'm thinking a digest of irc, svn and lists
04:02 < pxegeek> That would be nice - I'm sure I'm missing stuff while my buddy dyloxin is away :(
04:04 < pxegeek> Here's a question for the crowd - anyone have a pointer for a linux vmware image that includes synfig?  Understand that it wouldn't be SVN, but a working setup to start from might be more productive than me installing ubuntu from scratch...
04:05 < pabs3> yeah, me too. dooglus, you are on all the time, yeah? Any chance you keep logs?
04:06 < dooglus> I do
04:06 < pabs3> can I get a copy of them, pretty please :)
04:08 < dooglus> http://dooglus.rincevent.net/synfig/logs/
04:09 < dooglus> http://dooglus.rincevent.net/synfig/logs/logs.tgz is an archive of them all
04:09 < dooglus> I have some older ones on a different PC somewhere if you want those too
04:10 < dooglus> and this IRC machine was down for a few hours yesterday, so there will be a bit missing
04:11 < pabs3> sweet, thanks
04:16 < pabs3> btw, only diff between revert and normal load messages is this one, which is repeated twice: error: KeyframeActionManager::refresh(): Not ready!
04:17 < pabs3> ugh, so many gtk warnings
04:17 < dooglus> try a 2nd revert on the same file
04:17 < dooglus> is it noisier than the 1st?
04:18 < pabs3> woops, that time revert segfaulted
04:20 < pabs3> second time on a different image it segfaulted
04:20 < dooglus> in WorkArea::on_drawing_area_event()?
04:21 < pabs3> didn't have it gdb
04:21 < pabs3> ok, that time, reverted twice, same verbosity
04:21 < pabs3> except this error doubles the second time: error: KeyframeActionManager::refresh(): Not ready!
04:22 < dooglus> do you have 'info' level messages enabled?
04:22 < dooglus> like "synfig(18169): info: Info canvas_view_changed: start"?
04:22 < pabs3> yep
04:22 < dooglus> that's confusing then
04:23 < dooglus> you're running 'file > revert' from the canvas' menu?
04:25 < pabs3> yep
04:28 < dooglus> do you see a bunch of those 'canvas_view_changed' messages when you revert?
04:30 < pabs3> nothing with canvas_view_changed in it
04:30 < pabs3> probably cus I'm linking against the debian libsynfig?
04:31 < dooglus> no, the code looks like:
04:31 < dooglus> #ifdef _DEBUG synfig::info("%s canvas_view_changed: start",get_local_name().c_str());
04:31 < dooglus> #endif
04:32 < dooglus> so I guess I defined _DEBUG somewhere, and you didn't?
04:32 < dooglus> I run: ./configure --enable-debug --enable-optimization=0
04:32 < dooglus> do you --enable-debug?
04:32 < pabs3> nope
04:33 < pabs3> gotta eat some lunch, brb
04:34 < dooglus> ok
04:35 < dooglus> synfigstudio/config/subs.m4 sets -D_DEBUG if --enable-debug is set
04:50 < pabs3> yep
05:01 < dooglus> however, even without --enable-debug, you should see one extra 'Not ready!' each time you revert
05:07 < pabs3> yep, saw that
06:39 < pabs3> Bombe dooglus madsen omry pxegeek tonsofpcs: wrote a "synfig monthly news": http://rafb.net/p/B5Vl0585.html any comments?
06:44 < pxegeek> Is the env variable for the disabled tool documented in the wiki?
06:44 < pxegeek> <not that I'll be able to use it until Atrus updates the windows build :) >
06:45 < pxegeek> Looks good!  I especially like the highlighting on the C words!
06:46 < pxegeek> Would it help anyone to look at a windows debugger output for the crash I'm seeing?  
06:47 < pxegeek> Windebug is reporting an access violation. FWIW
06:48 < pabs3> nah, not documented on the wiki. its a pretty new thing that dooglus did
06:49 < pabs3> got a link to this crash?
06:49 < pabs3> btw, wine as an irc channel too :)
06:49 < pabs3> as/has
06:51 < pxegeek> Wine?
06:51 < pabs3> woops, I misread Windebug as Winedebug :)
06:52 < pxegeek> ;)
06:53 < omry> pabs3, looking good.
06:53 < pxegeek> I don't think what I have will be much use to anyone unless I can figure out how to relate it to the source code.  
06:53 < omry> pxegeek, new is C++ ;)
06:54 < pabs3> pxegeek: synfig needs new icons, you could do those if you wanted :)
06:54 < pxegeek> Unless this means anything to anyone 
06:54 < pxegeek> (f84.9f0): Access violation - code c0000005 (first chance)
06:54 < pxegeek> First chance exceptions are reported before any exception handling.
06:54 < pxegeek> This exception may be expected and handled.
06:54 < pxegeek> eax=00000043 ebx=0959c7f4 ecx=0000f15f edx=061da39a esi=061da358 edi=00000000
06:54 < pxegeek> eip=00000000 esp=0959c64c ebp=0959c680 iopl=0         nv up ei pl zr na pe nc
06:54 < pxegeek> cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs=0000             efl=00010246
06:54 < pxegeek> Nope?  Thought not ;)
06:55 < pxegeek> Which icons?
06:55 < pxegeek> (and what's wrong with the current ones?  
06:56 < pabs3> nope
06:56 < pabs3> ah, not pretty enough, be nice if they got tangoified too
06:59 < pxegeek> Hmmm...  I'll poke around on the tango website. Looks like some of the standard ones would apply.
07:00 < pxegeek> Then you'd want the current ones redone in the same style? 
07:02 < pabs3> yeah, check out this set too: http://tango.freedesktop.org/ArtLibreSet
07:03 < pabs3> theres 2 things wrt tango; 1) renaming icons to fit ArtLibreSet and standard tango names 2) redoing the icons themselves
07:04 < pxegeek> I was just going to ask - each one will have to be recreated, right?  No way to import, and we want to have the icons generated by synfig?
07:07 < pxegeek> OK - I'll see which ones I can map to the existing set, where the gaps are, and see if I can recreate any without synfig crashing on me.  Might be a while before I can get stuck in (work, taxes...)
07:08 < pxegeek> 'night all
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07:21 -!- pabs3 changed the topic of #synfig to: http://www.synfig.com | MSGPAD: StateS: please install the GTKmm linked from the download page (as well as the gaim one) | status update: http://www.synfig.com/2007/02/13/synfig-status/
07:22 -!- pabs3 changed the topic of #synfig to: http://www.synfig.com | MSGPAD: StateS: please install the GTKmm linked from the download page and make sure to install into the default location (atrus replied on the lists) (as well as the gaim one) | status update: http://www.synfig.com/2007/02/13/synfig-status/
10:28 < Bombe> Good morning.
10:29 < pabs3> hey Bombe :)
10:29 < Bombe> Hi, pabs.
10:32 -!- pabs3 changed the topic of #synfig to: http://www.synfig.com | MSGPAD: StateS: please install the GTKmm linked from the download page and make sure to install into the default location (atrus replied on the lists) (as well as the gaim one) | news: http://www.synfig.com/2007/03/07/synfig-monthly-news/
10:33 < Bombe> Monthly news are a good thing. There's nothing more depressing than finding a cool project on the internet that had its last activity somewhen back in 2001... :)
10:44 < Bombe> Oh, and pabs, could you replace the link to my blog entry with its trackback URL? http://blog.pterodactylus.net/wp-trackback.php?p=7
10:45 < pabs3> ok
10:45 < Bombe> Thanks.
10:46 < pabs3> done
10:46 < pabs3> hmm, different theme to this morning :)
10:47 < pabs3> I like the slogan :)
10:47 < Bombe> Yeah, the other one looked nicer but didn't mention the trackback URLs anywhere.
10:49 < pabs3> what do you mean by "improving the optics"?
10:49 < Bombe> The stuff I did so far, changing the dialogs to conform to the GNOME Human Interface Guide.
10:50 < pabs3> ah, I see
10:59 < pabs3> off to the beach, bbl
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16:26 < dooglus> pabs3: I like your monthly update on the website
16:27 < pabs3> thanks :)
16:27 < dooglus> I just booted into Windows and noticed that the synfig website doesn't render in IE7
16:28 < dooglus> the whole right-hand panel is black
16:28 < dooglus> the 'additional links' and such like
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16:32 < pabs3> eep
16:32 < pabs3> hi Nichod 
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16:34 < Nicho1> wow 10 people
16:34 < Nicho1> Anyone actually around?
16:35 < pabs3> of course :)
16:35 < Nicho1> ahh pabs
16:35 < pabs3> you seem to be marked away tho
16:36 < Nicho1> now?
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16:36 < Nichod_> anyway. so any stable windows build yet?
16:37 < pabs3> the unofficial build by atrus is based on a recent svn, which should be the most stable
16:41 < Nichod_> things look like they are getting more active
16:41 < Nichod_> thats good. I'd like to see synfig become the 2d blender
16:42 < pabs3> slightly. most of that is dooglus :)
16:42 < Nichod_> you should try and get some people to code under the google summer of code
16:44 < pabs3> no-one knows the code well enough really, apart from darco and he doesn't have time
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16:53 < pabs3> I'd prefer to get longer term contributors anyway
16:55 < pabs3> hmm, might apply anyway, or see if anyone wants to participate
17:01 < pabs3> I think I'll add this to the monthly news
17:05 < dooglus> even if that doesn't get you people directly, it might be a way of getting more attention to the project
17:06 < dooglus> it's a sad state of affairs if I am the one who understands the code the best
17:06 < dooglus> because I know nothing :)
17:06 < pabs3> :)
17:06  * pabs3 zzz
17:06 < dooglus> I installed the unofficial windows build
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17:06 < dooglus> was it something I said?
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