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03:23 < pabs3> dooglus: that handwriting anim you made is cool, is the source up anywhere?
05:24  * pxegeek was trying to figure out how he did it too!
05:42 < pxegeek> pabs - is there an easy way to view the changelogs for SVN without SVN?  
05:43 < pxegeek> The link from SF looks like it takes me to the official synfig 0 61 05 release
05:43 < pabs3> not at the moment
05:44 < pxegeek> Just downloaded Atrus' 264 - was wondering what to expect 
05:45 < pabs3> I can upload the changelogs I created with svn2cl for you to peruse, one sec
05:45 < pabs3> regenerated about an hour ago
05:48 < pabs3> pxegeek: grab em from here: http://bucket.chianamo.mine.nu/
05:50 < pabs3> woops, should have zipped em up
05:51 < pxegeek> Got 'em.  Thanks.  Just what I was looking for. 
05:52 < pxegeek> Wow!  17 days and almost 100 later revisions.....
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05:53 < pabs3> yep :)
05:55 < pxegeek> Ah....  So I can't turn draw back on yet....
05:55 < pxegeek> And I figured it would be a while before I could check out dooglus' hex colour editor.
06:08 < pxegeek> Hmmmm.... mandlebrot and preamblekid both still crash synfig under windows on my machine.  
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07:02 < pabs3> pxegeek: you mean the GUI or the command line renderer?
07:06 < pxegeek> I run synfigstudio, load the file, get the "one moment please" message then poof!
07:06 < pxegeek> Those are the only two of the examples that do it though. 
07:07 < pabs3> does it output anything if you run it from within cmd.exe ?
07:11 < pxegeek> hmmm... it's doing something...
07:12 < pxegeek> mmmm.... 120 copies of the same png file :)
07:12 < pabs3> can you pastebin or screenshot the messages before it goes poof?
07:13 < pxegeek> up to 70
07:13 < pabs3> actually it should be 120 slightly different png files
07:13 < pxegeek> 1 & half minutes to go
07:13 < pabs3> wait, did it crash during rendering, or during loading?
07:14 < pxegeek> command line worked
07:15 < pxegeek> crashed loading into synfigstudio
07:18 < pxegeek> Aha - it froze this time & Dr Watson kicked in.
07:18 < pxegeek> Here's what  the debug console says
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): warning: ../../../src/gtkmm/layeractionmanager.cpp:310 DEBUGPOINT
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Layers canvas_view_changed: end
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Params canvas_view_changed: start
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Params canvas_view_changed: end
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Canvas MetaData canvas_view_changed: start
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Canvas MetaData canvas_view_changed: end
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Children canvas_view_changed: start
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Children canvas_view_changed: end
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Info canvas_view_changed: start
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Info canvas_view_changed: end
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Navigator canvas_view_changed: start
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Navigator canvas_view_changed: end
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Timetrack canvas_view_changed: start
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Timetrack canvas_view_changed: end
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Curves canvas_view_changed: start
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Curves canvas_view_changed: end
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Groups canvas_view_changed: start
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): warning: ../../../src/gtkmm/groupactionmanager.cpp:145 DEBUGPOINT
07:19 < pxegeek> synfig(3632): info: Groups canvas_view_changed: end
07:19 < pxegeek> Main window  has a time line, but nothing else drawn in it.
07:21 < pabs3> ah, pastebin, not paste, but anyway
07:22 < pabs3> and nothing after that?
07:23 < pxegeek> Nope, just the friendly dialog box offering to tell microsoft about the problem.  Do you think they'd help debug it?  ;)
07:23 < pabs3> haha
07:24 < pxegeek> There is more output prior to that if it would help
07:25 < pabs3> does dr watson give any info?
07:28 < pxegeek> Ummm  want me to paste it in here?
07:29 < pabs3> pastebin.ca
07:30 < pabs3> paste it ther
07:30 < pabs3> e
07:30 < pxegeek> Actually it just looks like the file names
07:33 < pabs3> hm, k
07:33  * pabs3 bbiab
07:35 < pxegeek> uck - http://pastebin.ca/406229
07:40 < pxegeek> Grrr... there's more in the error report contents but no way to cut & paste it out.  
07:40 < pxegeek> the pastebin I reference earlier is just the appcompat.txt
07:41 < pxegeek> - doesn't contain the modules loaded or threads running.  
07:48 < pxegeek> OK - here's a better capture - from the tail of the DR Watson log
07:48 < pxegeek> http://pastebin.ca/406235
07:49 < pxegeek> Exception C0000005 (access violation)
07:53 < pxegeek> Looks like the instruction pointer is off in the weeds down in the bottom of memory.  
07:53 < pxegeek> (and that's about the extent of my debugging capability :)
07:53 < pxegeek> bedtime...  'night all
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09:37 < dooglus> pabs3: the handwriting animation's .sif: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/synfig/handwriting.sif
09:37 < dooglus> all it is is a bline where each vertex changes from width 0 to width 1 in turn
09:38 < pabs3> aha
09:44 < dooglus> you were asking about waypoints - this is a good example of them
09:44 < dooglus> http://dooglus.rincevent.net/synfig/waypoints.png
09:44 < dooglus> each vertex in turn has a waypoint setting its width to 0 and then another just after setting it to 1
09:45 < dooglus> you'll notice in that image that I've lined up the rows in the 2 windows.  I did it by hacking the code to use just the right height for the columns manually
09:45 < dooglus> do you know if there's a way to query gtkmm about the height of a column in a tree layout?
09:52 < pabs3> no idea really, but the api docs on gtkmm.org might help there
09:59 < dooglus> does sf.net send an email for every bug tracker update?  or only for new bugs?
09:59 < dooglus> 'cos I don't see my updates reaching the gmane archive
10:02 < pabs3> at the moment only new bugs. I asked if I should change that, got no response tho
10:03 < dooglus> I think it would be good to get updates too
10:03 < dooglus> anything to minimise the amount I have to use sf.net's crappy web interface :)
10:03 < pabs3> yeah, easy to add. you have admin access, yeah?
10:03 < pabs3> :)
10:03 < dooglus> yes
10:04 < pabs3> go for it :)
10:05 < pabs3> what do you think about 1368904? should all tools disable the timebar? or just the ones that hide it at the moment?
10:05 < pabs3> brb, chips :)
10:07 < dooglus> I set all 4 trackers to send email on all changes
10:08 < dooglus> not all tools should disable the timebar, no
10:09 < dooglus> I want to be able to scan through the time axis while using the eyedropper, for instance
10:19 < pabs3> hmm, at the moment it seems that the draw, bline and polygon tools hide (instead of disable) it. some of the others have their hide_timebar calls commented out
10:20 < pabs3> width, zoom, gradient, sketch, circle, rectangle have hide_timebar calls commented out
10:23 < pabs3> why would draw/bline/polygon hide it but the others not?
10:27 < pabs3> I suppose the bline/poly/draw tools are multi-click, whereas the others are just single-click
10:30 < dooglus> that's what I was thinking
10:30 < dooglus> the ones which use a state machine need to hide the timebar
10:31 < pabs3> ya
10:31  * pabs3 hugs his galeon smart bookmark linking to http://sourceforge.net/support/tracker.php?aid=%s
10:34 < pabs3> dooglus: any idea what the scrollbar under the timebar is for? the tooltip says "moves the time window"
10:36 < pabs3> hmm, I'm thinking that the text box at the bottom that gives Xs Yf should be editable
10:39  * pabs3 files bug
10:47 < pabs3> bbl, I'll commit the timebar stuff later
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22:59 < teak> good day to everyone
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