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14:34 -!- pabs3 changed the topic of #synfig to: http://www.synfig.com | atrus uploaded new svn win32/fedora versions | news: http://www.synfig.com/2007/03/07/synfig-monthly-news/
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15:39 < pabs3> dooglus: was 1694235 you?
15:48 < dooglus> oh, yes
15:49 < dooglus> looks like I'm not logged in
15:51 < dooglus> I was assuming that logging in to any sourceforge was enough
15:52 < dooglus> but apparently not.
15:52 < dooglus> I was already logged into sourceforge.jp
15:56 < pabs3> ah, I don't think browsers allow cross-domain cookies
15:56 < dooglus> ok
15:56 < dooglus> do you have an old install of synfig?
15:56 < dooglus> I'm wondering if http://dooglus.rincevent.net/synfig/incomplete-regions.html is a new bug
15:56 < dooglus> or whether it's present in the current release
15:58 < pabs3> is that in synfig rather than studio?
15:58 < pabs3> I have 0.61.05-394
15:58 < dooglus> good point, yes, that's synfig
15:58 < dooglus> the images were rendered using synfig
15:59 < dooglus> 394 isn't very old.  not a lot change since then I don't think
15:59 < dooglus> since it's just a synfig bug, I guess I can install the official debian package and run that.
16:00 < dooglus> ugh.  I forgot...  I'm not running debian any more :(
16:00 < pabs3> yeah, I get the same with 394
16:00 < dooglus> E: Couldn't find package synfig
16:00 < pabs3> you on knoppix?
16:00 < dooglus> no, a ubuntu live cd
16:01 < dooglus> it's quicker to build synfigstudio now than it was when I was using a hard disk
16:01 < dooglus> I find that hard to believe, but it's true :)
16:01 < pabs3> yay slow io!
16:02 < dooglus> I'm using a flash memory stick in place of the hard disk
16:02 < pabs3> which linux fs lives in ram, but can use swap? hmm, maybe tmpfs
16:02 < dooglus> that's much slower, of course
16:02 < dooglus> I don't have swap enabled
16:02 < pabs3> it would be an interesting experiment to run a debian buildd in tmpfs :)
16:03 < dooglus> I think a full build would be slow
16:03 < dooglus> but I hardly ever do those.
16:03 < dooglus> most of my changes involve just a few compiles and a re-link
16:19 < dooglus> my old laptop has the official debian synfig package, and it does show the same bug
16:27 < pabs3> wow, rpm .spec files use Copyright: instead of Licence: 
16:34 < dooglus> I never looked into packaging much
16:35 < dooglus> spent a month or so once packaging software at work; it seems to be a thankless task
16:35 < pabs3> yep
16:35 < dooglus> when you get it right nobody notices, and as soon as you make a mistake you're the bad guy
16:36 < dooglus> like system admin in general, I guess.
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16:45 < pabs3> aye
16:45 < dooglus> since switching from debian unstable + gnome to ubuntu + xfce4,
16:45 < dooglus> I've been unable to 'find' the dialog windows in studio
16:45 < dooglus> there's no taskbar icon for them, and alt-tabbing doesn't find them
16:45 < pabs3> eh?
16:45 < dooglus> they tend to hide under the other windows
16:46 < dooglus> like if I've got a maximised firefox window
16:46 < pabs3> there have been some patches about that in svn
16:46 < dooglus> how do I switch to the params window?
16:46 < dooglus> in GNOME I'm pretty sure that when I switched to the canvas window (or maybe the main studio window?  I forget) then the dialog windows would jump to the top
16:47 < pabs3> re you running svn studio?
16:47 < dooglus> yes
16:47 < pabs3> maybe the xfce wm doesn't respect the hints that get set
16:49 < dooglus> that's probably it
16:49 < dooglus> here's an example: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/synfig/1175698114.png
16:49 < dooglus> studio and the canvas are both 'on top'
16:49 < dooglus> but the dialogs are hiding under the emacs
16:50 < pabs3> perhaps there are some additional hints that could help
16:50 < dooglus> do you know which bug it was?
16:50 < pabs3> I'd check the svn logs and then find the diffs for the hint changes I made
16:50  * pabs3 can't remember offhand
16:51  * pabs3 gonna watch tv for a bit
16:52 < dooglus> ok
16:58 < dooglus> I found this: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-synfig-devel/2006-May/000067.html
16:58 < dooglus> it's in the debian BTS, not the synfig one...
16:59 < dooglus> ok, here too http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1367916&group_id=144022&atid=757416
17:00 < dooglus> it's not quite the same bug, but is a useful lead
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22:52 < StateS> hi all!
23:17 < dooglus> hi StateS
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