--- Log opened Sat Apr 07 00:00:30 2007
--- Day changed Sat Apr 07 2007
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02:23 < pxegeek> dooglus - looks like you've been having fun today
02:23 < pxegeek> (or yesterday in your timezone...)
02:24 < pxegeek> Given what I was reading, should I upgrade to 421?  or wait for 44x?  
02:24 < pxegeek> I'm on 375 right now...
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04:16 < pxegeek> Hi pabs
04:16 < pabs3> hey pxegeek :)
04:17 < pxegeek> You all packed?
04:17 < pabs3> nope, haven't started :)
04:17 < pabs3> you try the new win32 build?
04:17 < pxegeek> 421?
04:18 < pxegeek> I was reading the logs...  looks like it's already obsolete! 
04:18 < pxegeek> Or has Atrus rebuilt again?
04:19 < pxegeek> Looks like he has 426 built
04:21 < pxegeek> I just downloaded 421 two days ago, but haven't had a chance to install/play with it.  
04:21  * pxegeek downloads 426
04:21 < pxegeek> Should I try pirates.sif?
04:21 < pxegeek> ;)
04:23 < pabs3> not unless you wanna build r430
04:23 < pabs3> dooglus fixed the bug :)
04:24 < pabs3> also, if you install 426, be sure to test the uninstall process
04:27 < pxegeek> just reading the bug fixes
04:28 < pxegeek> I have the digest version of the devel list, but still had 4 emails from the list today!
04:28 < pabs3> :/
04:34 < pxegeek> OK - saving my icons to a safe place.
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04:37 < pabs3> pxegeek: if the uninstall is truly fixed, can you move the win32uninstall item on http://wiki.synfig.com/Roadmap to already fixed?
04:37 < pabs3> hi ChrisVP :)
04:38 < ChrisVP> hello
04:41 < pabs3> how are things?
04:41 < ChrisVP> not bad, busy as always
04:41 < ChrisVP> things here look good
04:42 < pxegeek> pabs: yes - but getting things cleaned up for testing isn't going smoothly - I have a locked folder I can't delete right now.  Grrr.
04:42 < pabs3> yeah, dooglus has been squishing bugs left right and center
04:43 < pabs3> eep
04:43 < pabs3> almost time for a monthly news thing
04:43 < pxegeek> (and without a hard disk too!)
04:43 < pabs3> might do that when I get to sydney
04:43 < pabs3> yeah, sounds like he is enjoying it though :)
04:44 < ChrisVP> what's the Mac status?
04:45  * pxegeek is going offline to unlock a folder...
04:46 < pabs3> ChrisVP: madsen is offline for a few weeks
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04:46 < ChrisVP> ic
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04:58 < pxegeek> Hmmm...  looks like there are  still a couple of folders left after an uninstall.  Trying again.
05:01 < pabs3> delete everything first, then install and uninstall 426
05:02 < pxegeek> Yup.  synfig/shared/pixmaps folder is left, with all the icons it contains.
05:03 < pabs3> shared? its not share?
05:03 < pxegeek> s/shared/share
05:05 < pxegeek> Also, would now be a good time to mention that the program shows up in Start->Programs->Voria->Synfig Studio?
05:05 < pxegeek> Is it time to move to Start->Programs -> Synfig -> Synfig Studio?
05:05 < ChrisVP> if not now, soon for sure
05:06  * pxegeek had to tuck the little one into bed - biiab
05:08 < pabs3> yeah, pxegeek can you file a bug about that, I'll assign it to atrus
05:09 < pabs3> same with the pixmaps uninstall
05:10 < pabs3> hmmm
05:11 < pabs3> looks like a couple of .nsh files are missing from the images dir
05:12  * pabs3 wonders if dooglus missed an svn add
05:16 < pabs3> hmm, they are generated dynamically
05:19 < pabs3> hmm, bugger, editing svn log messages is broken
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06:11 < pabs3> hm, http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/040607-integrated-issue-tracking-ikiwiki.html
06:32 < pxegeek> Looks like atrus lists the uninstall as fixed in revs higher than 426.  Does he mean 426 and higher?  
06:42 < pabs3> his build of 426 includes a bunch of patches that dooglus applied after 426
06:46 < pxegeek> I'm guessing I need to open a new bug against Atrus'426 then.  Adding a comment to the bug he closed won't reopen it, huh?
06:46 < pabs3> I can re-open it if you want
06:52 < pxegeek> Seems to make more sense than opening a new one.  To me.
06:55  * pabs3 would love to experiment with using ikiwiki to do bugs, features, website, etc for synfig.com
06:59 < pxegeek> looks nice - more accessable than SVN to us non-coders that are just interested in following along
07:17 < pxegeek> Thx for the bug update
07:19 < pabs3> np
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11:32 < dooglus> I don't think I missed any svn add commands
11:32 < dooglus> I don't think any were needed
11:33 < dooglus> I feel rough this morning :(
11:36 < pabs3> nope, you didn't, I messed that they are generated at build time
11:36 < pabs3> bummer :(
11:43 < dooglus> I answered my 'region filling' question: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/synfig/regions.html
11:53 < dooglus> i emailed darco about the svn comment editing problem
11:53  * pabs3 too 
11:53 < dooglus> he said he was going to make it so only pabs and I could edit comments
11:53 < dooglus> this was 2 or 3 days ago
11:54 < pabs3> hmm, I'm not sure if that algorithm is the 'correct' one to be using
11:55 < dooglus> can you suggest a better one?
11:55 < dooglus> "if the count is *even* then you're outside"?
11:57 < pabs3> thats what I always thought was the most used one
11:57  * pabs3 looks at inkscape
11:59 < pabs3> hmm, any idea how to close bezier curves in inkscape?
12:00 < pabs3> ah, got it
12:02 < dooglus> the way synfig does it means I can scribble shapes like this:
12:02 < dooglus> http://dooglus.rincevent.net/synfig/scribble.png
12:02 < dooglus> and have them filled how I would expect
12:02 < dooglus> an even/odd scheme would mess that up pretty badly
12:03 < pabs3> true
12:04 < dooglus> it seems that every curve is really just 75 straight lines
12:05 < dooglus> I'm thinking 75 is probably too many for short curves, and not enough for long ones
12:07 < pabs3> same topology in inkscape: http://bucket.chianamo.mine.nu/inkscape.png
12:08 < dooglus> that's the even/odd scheme
12:08 < dooglus> which do we prefer?
12:09 < dooglus> I think synfig has it right, personally
12:09 < pabs3> dunno, I'm thinking an option on the region layer would be good
12:11 < dooglus> right
12:11 < pabs3> obviously the current version would be the default
12:11 < dooglus> will you raise a feature request?
12:13 < pabs3> I'm gonna be going out soon, if I remember I'll do it when I'm in Sydney
12:14 < dooglus> it's a checkbox option, but what's it called?
12:18 < pabs3> hmmmm, maybe an "inside outside mode" dropdown with "up/down count at zero" and "odd/even crossing" (or something)
12:18 < pabs3> be better to use the terms used in the graphics field, which I don't know
12:19 < pabs3> this'd be a good thing to document on the wiki btw
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22:42 < pxegeek> My apologies to Atrus...
22:42 < pxegeek> I thought I was testing his build of 426, but was in fact testing 421.
22:47 < dooglus> so it does remove all the files OK?
22:55 < dooglus> should I close http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1673269&group_id=144022&atid=757416 ?
--- Log closed Sun Apr 08 00:00:56 2007