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03:52 < pxegeek> me finally succumbs and loads MinGW
03:53 < pxegeek> I can compile "Hello World".  Next stop Synfig!
03:53 < pxegeek> Umm.....  maybe...
03:59  * pxegeek has to reboot for SVN install
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04:24 < pxegeek> mmm... How big is the src from SVN?
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04:43 < pxegeek> 28.73MB for core...
04:50 < pxegeek> and another 9.76MB for studio
04:51 < pabs3> the examples prob take up the most space in core
04:58 < pxegeek> So I have MinGW & msys installed and running.  Do I have to go find autoconf & automake seperately?
05:02 < pxegeek> hmpf.  mktemp command not found.  This could take a while...
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05:09 < pabs3> they should come with mingw
05:13 < pxegeek> You'd think, wouldn't you...  not in /bin
05:14 < pxegeek> I've found it online, but there isn't a pre-compiled version .  grrr.....
05:14 < pxegeek> let's see if MinGW really is working...
05:18 < pxegeek> and of course I need autoconf to build mktemp....
05:19 < pxegeek> Ooops!  I lied - they only had the Solaris binary listed, but they do have a windows port under 'other ports'
05:20 < pabs3> what about http://prdownloads.sf.net/mingw/msys-autoconf-2.59.tar.bz2?download ?
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05:20 < pabs3> http://mingw.org/msys.shtml
05:21 < pabs3> http://mingw.org/download.shtml#hdr8
05:21 < pxegeek> Yes.  That looks good.  I must admit I went with the easy 'dumb' windows installer.  I figured I'd have to go digging for more bits
05:21 < pabs3> probably want http://prdownloads.sf.net/mingw/msysDTK-1.0.1.exe?download
05:21 < pabs3> I mean http://prdownloads.sf.net/mingw/MSYS-1.0.10.exe?download
05:24 < pxegeek> I have msys-1.0.10.exe...
05:26 < pxegeek> hmmm... I wonder what msys uses for a path.  
05:26 < pxegeek> usr/local/bin looks safe
05:34 < pxegeek> OK one step closer.  Next stop autoconf...
05:55 < pxegeek> ...tomorrow.
05:58 < pxegeek> 'doh - looks like msysDTK comes with mktemp....
05:59 < pxegeek> ah well...
06:04 < pxegeek> OK, so I keep picking at it...  
06:04 < pxegeek> Looks like ETL built successfully - at least I didn't see any terribly worrying error messages
06:12 < pxegeek>  *** The pkg-config script could not be found. Make sure it is
06:12 < pxegeek> *** in your path, or set the PKG_CONFIG environment variable
06:12 < pxegeek> *** to the full path to pkg-config.
06:13 < pxegeek> running ./configure on synfig-core
06:13 < pxegeek> Is this something built by ETL
06:13 < pxegeek> ?
06:15  * pxegeek goes to bed to sleep on it
06:19 < pabs3> http://www.mingw.org/MinGWiki/index.php/pkg-config
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13:58 < Atrus[work]> he there... =)
13:58 < Atrus[work]> s/he/hi/
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18:02  * Atrus[work] reading logs... ;-) Looks like pxegeek cant wait any more... ;-)
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18:47 < CIA-22> synfig: dooglus * r483 /synfig-core/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Patch 1714885: Windows version can be built with OpenEXR support now. This patch enables OpenEXR support and includes required files into the installer.
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19:58 < dooglus> Atrus[work]: thanks for the wiki page about install MinGW etc.
19:58 < dooglus> Atrus[work]: and for the Windows OpenEXR patch
19:58 < Atrus[work]> This is only one half.
19:59 < dooglus> Atrus[work]: right.  I didn't see anything about building synfig there :)
19:59 < Atrus[work]> I'll try to send the rest tonight or tomorrow.
19:59 < Atrus[work]> openexr also required it's own patch. They build it only by MSVC and it's makefile is wrong for windows ;-)
20:01 < timonator> hey, i'm having problems adding a sound track to my animation
20:03 < Atrus[work]> Huh? I dont make builds with FMOD support. So, I supouse, you need a third party tool for this.
20:23 < timonator> so if i want to make one animation with multiple scenes, that may need multiple different objects and i don't want to have the objects from the other scene to clutter my layer list
20:23 < timonator> do i add another canvas and set its begin and end times accordingly?
20:36 < timonator> or do i make a whole new sif file?
20:36 < timonator> also: why can't i modify the start and end times of a canvas?
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20:43 < Atrus[work]> Hmm... The start and end time of cavas - is a strange. I'll try to check it. But I cant do it here.
20:45 < timonator> i'd use vim to edit the sif if in doubt
20:48 < Atrus[work]> About several canvas in one file. I think, the core can process that files, but I cant assert this.
20:49 < timonator> hm
20:50 < Atrus[work]> I'm afraid there no difference between two canvas and two sif file...
20:53 < timonator> so i just load a second sif file and if i have set up start and end times correctly hitting file -> render will make it work?
20:54 < Atrus[work]> may be, I cant check it now.
20:55 < timonator> i'll try
20:59 < timonator> hm
20:59 < timonator> i have both open, yet the one doesn't show up in the other's preview
21:00 < timonator> and when i save the other one and import it into my first sif it'll just be dislayed from the beginning
21:05 < timonator> i wonder how it was handled in that short movie
21:05 < timonator> they probably didn't have one huge sif with all of the stuff in it
21:06 < timonator> maybe i should make single parts single animations and render them into single movies and then use some awesome compositing program that could also do sound track etc
21:06 < Atrus[work]> I think you need try the console tool, but not a studio.
21:06 < timonator> mhm
21:10 < dooglus> timonator: you can only render one .sif file at a time.  that's the difference between .sif and canvases I think
21:11 < timonator> mhm
21:11 < timonator> i can't add canvases tho :)
21:11 < timonator> maybe some editing of the file will help?
21:11 < timonator> anyway, i'm pretty sleepy
21:13 < timonator> i guess for the time being the studio + avidemux2 will suffice
21:14 < Atrus[work]> If I remember - I'll try it at home.
21:15 < Atrus[work]> avi? I think to use matroska, cause it does not have 2Gb limitation.
21:15 < timonator> hm?
21:16 < timonator> i like ogm as container and vorbis as sound, i'ven't looked into theora too much
21:16 < Atrus[work]> http://www.matroska.org/
21:16 < Atrus[work]> I think it can be useful as temporary container.
21:18 < Atrus[work]> ogg theora is good for streaming, but not for editing.
21:18 < timonator> i have no experience with all this at all
21:18 < timonator> maybe a lossless compression format would be nice as intermediate format
21:18 < timonator> but does something like this exist?
21:18 < timonator> each frame as a seperate PNG maybe
21:20 < Atrus[work]> synfig support avcodec, ffmpeg and imagemagick as render target. I think it can be used to render in avi or mkv
21:20 < Atrus[work]> this is my second goal. ;-)
21:22 < timonator> it won't render mkv, or at least it won't create the file before it's done rendering
21:24 < Atrus[work]> hmm... its need to see it by myself.
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22:02 < timonator> good night
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22:09 < Atrus[work]> so long
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