--- Log opened Mon Mar 17 00:00:28 2008
00:04 < valessio> pixelgeek, hi
00:04 < valessio> :)
00:05 < pixelgeek> What brings you to Synfig land
00:05 < pixelgeek> ?
00:08 < valessio> I'm Brazilian, I follow the Synfig but now to only obtain to use some things.
00:08 < valessio> I have one trash English and I helped to establish InkscapeBrasil.org community to collaborate with documentation and translation.
00:09 < valessio> I'm trying to make the same with Synfig.
00:09 < valessio> http://pootle.colivre.coop.br/pt_BR/synfig/
00:09 < valessio> Also I am studying 'UI Synfig' for proposal 'UI Inkscape'.
00:09 < valessio> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/SVG_Animation_MockupUI
00:10 < valessio> I go to have that to leave now, my woman arrived. I cannot pass more much time with the computer.
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00:10 < valessio> pixelgeek, ;)
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00:13 < rore> oh, so we may have some pt_BR.po soon, cool :)
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00:23  * pixelgeek grrrrrsss
00:23 < pixelgeek> I'm trying to do a screen capture of the Synfig install process under Windows
00:23 < pixelgeek> But I captured it at 30fps, and my video editing software expects it at 29.97 fps
00:24 < pixelgeek> So it looks really jerky - about 1 fps
00:24 < pixelgeek> Who decided 29.97 would be a good frame rate anyway?
00:26 < rore> isn't that the frame rate used by TV? Maybe there's some physical limitations that forces to use that frame rate? Anyway, that's clearly a "weird" number :)
00:26 < pixelgeek> Yes - it's the NTSC spec
00:26 < pixelgeek> But it's still an insane number
00:27 < pixelgeek> I'm seeing if ffnpeg can help, but it's having trouble with the colourspace too.
00:32 < pixelgeek> How's your monster coming along, rore?  I didn't understand your 'H-5' reference earlier
00:33 < rore> it's just for "hour H -5", because last time I started my image only a few hours before the contest deadline. (I think that was 5 hours before the deadline, but I'm not sure)
00:34 < rore> and well, my monster's fine, he's even being animated (just a bit) but I'm really bad at animation so it takes time :)
00:35 < pixelgeek> I have an insane idea for one, and a more practical one
00:35 < pixelgeek> Haven't started either one yet.
00:35 < dooglus> we should set the 'auto' target to use magick++ not imagemagick for .gif output files - it does a much better job of it
00:36 < pixelgeek> I though you were skiing?
00:36 < dooglus> snowboarding
00:36 < rore> yeah, I though that too :)
00:36 < pixelgeek> falling down a mountain
00:36 < dooglus> turns out they have the internet here too
00:36 < dooglus> who knew?  :)
00:36 < rore> hehehe :)
00:36 < pixelgeek> Can't... keep... away....
00:36 < dooglus> was intending to go to sleep
00:36 < pixelgeek> Windows isn't compiling w/ magick++
00:37 < pixelgeek> (or at least I'm not)
00:37 < rore> pixelgeek: I had a "simple" idea (simple to make). The cute violet monster :] http://rore.dyndns.org/rore/synfig/monster.png (not finished)
00:37 < dooglus> got to the room I'm sleeping in, and my roommate has fallen asleep with his laptop on, playing mp3s
00:37 < dooglus> couldn't resist...
00:37 < rore> ahah :)
00:37 < pixelgeek> Oooh the opportunities!
00:38 < pixelgeek> Take a snapshot of his back ground and view it fullscreen!
00:38 < pixelgeek> rore: Cute monster!
00:38 < pixelgeek> I think I'd be OK meeting that one
00:39 < pixelgeek> Gonna post it in wip?
00:39 < rore> that's because you didn't saw his teeth yet ^^
00:39 < pixelgeek> Awww... It's too cute to have fangs!  And besides it's smiling!
00:40  * pixelgeek grrrs some more at video standards
00:40 < dooglus> oh, he woke as soon as I touched the laptop,,, :)
00:41 < pixelgeek> At this point it may just be easier to recapture it...  
00:42 < pixelgeek> dooglus: Did you have any good runs today?  Good food?  Good Beer?
00:43 < rore> pixelgeek: oh, it's as cute as the chubbchubbs, yes. (Not sure if everybody knows: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_ChubbChubbs! )
00:44 < rore> good snow battle? :)
00:45 < pixelgeek> I've seen that one - very funny.  
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01:31 < pixelgeek> Yay - Virtual dub to the rescue
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02:09  * LinuxO is back (gone 15:55:21)
02:09  * LinuxO is away: Aterrorizando a jugadores de Urban Terror
02:25  * LinuxO pensando...
02:33 < pixelgeek> What is LinuxO thinking of?
02:33 < LinuxO> about imap message system
05:28 < pixelgeek> So I have a "How to install Synfig under Windows" video ready to upload
05:28 < pixelgeek> Question is - does it go in the "How to" category or the "Film and animation" category on Youtube?
05:34  * pixelgeek figured out why he was having problems with the return key - piles of junk had encroached on the Enter key on the Number pad
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09:16 < genete> hi pabs :)
09:18 < pabs3> hey genete 
09:18 < pabs3> finally got my modem replaced :D
09:19 < genete> well, I hope you don't feel more undesired disconnections :)
09:19 < genete> s/well/good ;)
09:20 < genete> I'm sorry for the disaster with the Synfig irregular news :/
09:21 < pabs3> disaster?
09:23 < genete> the problems with the forum topic (my ignorance) and the lwn mail ...
09:23 < genete> s/forum/IRC
09:23 < pabs3> ah, thats OK - I improved the documentation of what to do as a result, so it was good :)
09:24 < genete> what about your march challenge entry? (I would like see  something from you) :)
09:30 < pabs3> not sure yet, I think I need to try some stuff on paper first
09:36 < genete> I have the whole concept done. Only need to make some animation and think on a funny background
09:40 < pabs3> cool
09:40 < genete> wanna see a shot?
09:41 < pabs3> indeed :)
09:43 < genete> http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/Genete/synfig/shot-1.png
09:45 < pabs3> hehe, awesome!
09:46 < pabs3> monster month was a great idea for a challenge, I'm looking forward to the results :)
09:46 < genete> one of my son's tales book inspired me :)
09:46 < pabs3> cool :)
10:07 < rore> genete: great whale :)
10:09 < genete> thanks :) your monster is great too! :)
10:09 < rore> I wish I were patient enough to do shading like you do ^^
10:10 < genete> I wish I can make anime style shadows like you ;)
10:10 < rore> heheh
10:19 < genete> need to disconnect. See you :)
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11:25 < _Elk> i guess you guys get this question alot, but is there any way of loading a video clip or series of images to use as a background in synfig ? I want to do the scanner darkly / waking life type thing ...
11:43 < pabs3> _Elk: you can import stills easily, can't do video yet
11:43 < pabs3> just file > import on a canvas window
11:44 < pabs3> _Elk: that kind of thing sounds really really time consuming
11:44 < _Elk> yes it is :)
11:45 < _Elk> but you don't realy have to go as far as scanner darcly did on details thoe
11:47 < _Elk> but its good for fluide real looking animation if you just ned a siluet for instans
11:48  * pabs3 seems to remember that they wrote some special software for that movie
11:49 < _Elk> it was the sam app they used for waking life, just with some improvments, like transparency and stuff, it's calle rotoshop, but they keep it to them selves
11:50 < pabs3> ah, bummer :(
11:52 < _Elk> but if synfig had video support it would almost be tha same as rotoshop in functionality for this kind of thing
11:53 < _Elk> it also had some cool stuf for painting in the second "key" line instead of tweaking the points in the first one in a later frame
11:54 < _Elk> ohh, and tablet support, does synfig have that ?
11:55 < pabs3> I think some people reported it works with tablets
11:55 < pabs3> but Voria artists only used mice IIRC
11:56 < _Elk> ok, i onty get No extended input device when i try the input device option, but that might just be me setting stuff up wrong
11:57 < pabs3> I think pixelgeek was the one who said it works with tablets, try asking him when he returns
11:57 < _Elk> ohh, now its working, just needed to start synfig over
11:57 < pabs3> aha
11:57 < _Elk> :)
11:58 < pabs3> how expensive are tablets anyways?
11:59 < _Elk> long time since i brought mine, but theyr no to expencive
11:59 < _Elk> havent realy started using it til recently tho, but when you get used to it it is a real treat, esescialy in gimp and alike
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12:02 < _Elk> you can get them as cheap as around 100 $, if i remember the curency correctly, here in norway
12:03 < pabs3> cool
12:04 < pabs3> can you basically use them like a piece of paper? or does the drawing need to show up on a monitor?
12:05 < _Elk> there is no screen on them so you only get it up on the monitor
12:05 < _Elk> actualy you can get ones with screens also but they are realy expencive
12:05 < pabs3> ah
12:07 < _Elk> i use mine in absolute mode now where the surface of the tablet coresponds to the size of my screen, but you can also set it to work as a mouse in a way wher you "drag" yourself around
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18:49 < Zelgadis> rore's monster reminds me Luntik: http://melnitsa.com/melnitsa_ang/films/proekt/luntik/luntik.htm
18:50 < Zelgadis> BTW, can't make synfig support pressure sensitivity for my tablet. In GIMP everything works...
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21:23 < pixelgeek> I was catching up on the tablet discussion earlier on today.  
21:23 < pixelgeek> Synfig works great with a Wacom tablet under Windows
21:24 < pixelgeek> pressure sensitivity is supported, although I had to tweak the sensitivity range, or I found myself trying to drill down with the stylus to get it to register even the faintest of line.  
21:25 < pixelgeek> Once adjusted, and with a thick enough default line, it works great.  Now I just need to work on the artistic talent (!)
21:26 < pixelgeek> If you want 5 minutes of experience close to watching paint dry, check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrDqiRI7fwk
21:26 < pixelgeek> It's a bit fuzzy, but you can make out what's happening
22:39 < dooglus> evening all
22:46 < pixelgeek> Evening dooglus
22:46 < pixelgeek> How's the snow?
22:59 < pixelgeek> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrDqiRI7fwk&fmt=18 seems to be a little sharper
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