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02:17 < akagogo> hi
02:17 < akagogo> my animation is ready ^^
02:18 < akagogo> but i dont know export it to flv
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03:14 < akagogo> you're sleeping o.o
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03:28 < pixelgeek> akagogo: it doesn't have to be flv....  Most common was is to make an mpg and upload it to Youtube
03:28 < pixelgeek> If you really want to make an flv, you can export as a series of still frames, then use ffmpeg to combine them into an flv.
03:29 < pixelgeek> But then you'll have to have a widget on your webpage that allows visitors to see flvs, as most people don't have a standalone flv viewer.  
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03:33 < akagogo> pixelgeek: thx
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04:04 < pixelgeek> 'night all
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04:40 < factor> looks l;ike another entry
04:40 < factor> like
04:55  * factor tries compiling synfig again
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05:44 < factor> nope still errors out on trgt_magickpp.cpp
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09:23 < factor_> got my synfig error to compile, changed trgt_magickpp.cpp (lines: 71,106) Magick::MagickTrue to MagickTrue
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09:29 < factor_> what is this fmod thing non open source? is that for sound
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09:31 < factor_> oh says someting about font
09:33 < rore> fmod seems a little bit "too much" for synfig, IMHO. I'm not sure synfig really needs an audio lib that can do "3D sounds" for games etc. 
09:34 < rore> (especially when it's not a open lib :p )
09:49 < factor_> right
09:49 < factor_> lots of open sound libs around.
09:58 < factor_> plenty of font libs too
10:11 < AkhIL> openal, sdl... and jack
10:12 < AkhIL> jack will be great
10:12 < AkhIL> pulse audio
10:14 < factor_> I like the mikmod stuff
10:15 < factor_> has ability to play compressed sequences has the IT capabilities and you can abstract the modifiers as layer options and tracks as layers.
10:16 < factor_> then render it out to avi mpeg what have you on final render.
10:17 < factor_> not to mention you could export the sequence to a tracker and edit it even further.
10:17 < factor_> but then again I am old skool :D
10:17 < factor_> but the IT stuff has all the high quality you would want and lengths.
10:18 < factor_> and the lib works with win, mac and unix os\2 even :D
10:24 < factor_> progs that edit libmikmod files http://cheesetracker.sourceforge.net/ (QT mod editor)   http://www.soundtracker.org/ (GNOME mod editor)
10:25 < factor_> mostly for music but you can use it to sequense to animations
10:25 < factor_> sequence even
10:25 < factor_> at different speeds as well
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10:27 < factor_> all samples wrapped up into a nice file as well.
10:29 < factor_> ok off to bed. for a bit longer
10:29 < factor_> synfigstudio taking a bit to compile. need to get distgcc setup
10:29 < factor_> and that ccache
10:45 < factor_> yeah, everything compiled.
10:46 < factor_> and works :D that is a plus.
10:47 < factor_> now if I get any time next weekend to mess around with synfig modules.
10:47 < factor_> wont be sound  :D
10:56 < rore> ah, great, 'openal' that was the name I was looking for yesterday. (But I don't remember for what, heh)
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17:06 < genete> I'm looking for the tango ArtLibreSet icons but they are not shown in its web page, does anybody know why? http://tango.freedesktop.org/ArtLibreSet
17:11 < pabs3> genete: they point to tango-project.org, which has expired
17:12 < pabs3> genete: I reported it to #tango
17:12 < genete> expired?
17:12 < genete> died?
17:13 < pabs3> as in they didn't pay the domain registration before the time was up
17:13 < pabs3> s/registration/registration fee/
17:14 < genete> glups
17:14 < genete> where can I find the current tango artlibreset?
17:15 < genete> I would like to create new icons for synfig but want to be sure I'm not redoing the wheel repetaing any icon already done
17:16 < pabs3> if you put "131.252.210.176 tango-project.org" in your /etc/hosts file you should be able to see them on the web page
17:16 < pabs3> also; <dobey> fixed
17:17 < pabs3> genete: it just got fixed, reload the page
17:18 < genete> nice!
17:18 < genete> are you tango project admin as well?
17:19 < pabs3> :) nope, I just complained on the #tango irc channel, and dobey fixed it :)
17:20 < pabs3> genete: woops, it isn't actually expired - didn't notice that the expiration date is exactly one year from yesterday
17:21 < genete> pabs3: is there a way to load the package for artlibreset? I don't find it in the page (I wwould like to see it larger)
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17:22 < pabs3> genete: package?
17:22 < genete> yes the png files or the scalable (svg) ones
17:23 < genete> I have the tango one but not the artlibreset tango style
17:24 < pabs3> do a cvs checkout - http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library
17:24 < pabs3> replace tango-icon-theme with tango-art-libre
17:25 < genete> aaah
17:25 < genete> there is not instruction for that anywere in that web :/
17:26 < pabs3> nope, I'm guessing based on the URLs for the images
17:29 < genete> I've done:
17:30 < genete> cvs -d:pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/tango logi
17:30 < genete> n
17:30 < genete> then pressed enter after askme a password
17:30 < genete> and now write:
17:31 < genete> cvs -d:pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/tango co art-libre-set
17:31 < genete> and told me: cvs server: cannot find module `art-libre-set' - ignored
17:34 < pabs3> tango-art-libre rather than art-libre-set
17:35 < genete> cool
17:36 < genete> thanks pabs3, I was in a bit to ask it at #tango. :)
17:37 < pabs3> nnp
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17:58 < pabs3> mwiriadi: how is synfig-in-fedora going? /me hasn't seen any mails recently
18:30 < pabs3> cool, darco fixed the synfig dns, will get onto the migration after I sleep
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18:47 < dooglus> hi all
18:47 < dooglus> I'm back.  Did I miss anything?
18:47 < Zelgadis> hi, dooglus!
18:47 < akagogo> hi
18:47 < Zelgadis> don't know - catching the logs
18:47 < genete> hi dooglus :)
18:48 < dooglus> it
18:48 < genete> hi all :)
18:48 < dooglus> it's Easter Monday and I'm back from the dead!  Remind you of anyone?
18:48 < Zelgadis> hi everyone :)
18:48 < genete> dooglus: someone with long hair too? ;)
18:48 < dooglus> yeah :)
18:49 < genete> dooglus: nothing but the march challenge, I think. 
18:50 < dooglus> I see from the logs that synfig now exports to animated SVG format and is the #1 animation package in the world.  Which was nice to see.
18:52 < genete> dooglus: using which export target?
18:52 < dooglus> genete: I only skimmed the logs quickly.  I probably misread.
18:53 < genete> ah! and we loose GoSoC for this year :(
18:54 < dooglus> genete: what happened?  missed the deadline?
18:55 < Zelgadis> don't know. Just not in list. No comments from google.
18:55 < genete> don't really know. It was not selected. Simply synfig doesn't appears on the list
18:55 < Zelgadis> the application was submited before deadline
18:56 < rore> Hi dooglus, nice to see you back (without anything broken :) ) 
18:56 < rore> bah, last year more "popular" projects like Gimp weren't selected either. 
18:57 < genete> rore: yes but the most important parts are dooglus's head and fingers (the rest doesn't matter)
18:57 < genete> ;)
18:57 < rore> oh, that's not nice ;)
18:57  * Zelgadis trying to cast something scary on genete for that words 
18:58 < Zelgadis> "Earth below me, submit to my will! DUG HAUT!"
18:58 < genete> (just kidding)
18:58 < rore> genete: me too :)
18:58 < Zelgadis> BTW who has some interests in real life besides computers?
18:58 < genete> dooglus: any photos or videos?
18:58 < Zelgadis> genete: too
18:59 < rore> Zelgadis: real life? What's that? ;)
18:59 < dooglus> I sustained my first injury just a few hours ago - fell getting off the chair lift and bruised by left bumcheek :)
18:59 < rore> arf :)
19:00 < dooglus> genete: both, but have only just got home (was on the last lift just 3 hours ago :) ) and first priority was to get into the bath!
19:00 < genete> he he
19:00 < genete> one week without bath, he he
19:00 < genete> and long hair....
19:01 < dooglus> no!  but one week without doing any laundry...  the drive home was a little smelly.
19:01 < rore> snow-baths, maybe 
19:01  * genete searching for bumcheek definition :\
19:02 < dooglus> genete: heh
19:02 < dooglus> bum = arse = butt
19:02 < genete> aaah
19:02 < dooglus> cheek = what the bum has 2 of, as does your face
19:02 < genete> lol
19:06 < rore> Zelgadis: hey, I suddlently feel an interest in real life, like... going to dinner :] (hm, ok, not sure that really answer your question)
19:06 < Zelgadis> rore: Ha-ha :)
19:07 < Zelgadis> Well at least I know what dooglus likes to ski
19:08 < genete> Zelgadis: one question: the boys that were learning synfig in your youtube video are for free or is it a school task?
19:08 < rore> By the way, akagogo, did you get the answer to your question about flv from the logs? I saw you tried to talk to me but it was around 3am here :)
19:09 < akagogo> xD
19:09 < genete> dooglus: I've closed a pair of bug trakers and replied others. Maybe you want to have a look.
19:11 < genete> akagogo: thanks for share the sifz file of your blendermonster :)
19:13 < akagogo> ^^ don't worry
19:14 < akagogo> rore: sorry,  In Peru the hour was 11 pm
19:15 < rore> no problem :)
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19:31  * dooglus snowboards rather than skiing
19:32  * dooglus also likes cycling and walking in the countryside
19:32 < dooglus> and kind of enjoys driving, but the guilt always kind of spoils it
19:32  * dooglus crashed the car twice this morning before working out the correct way to drive on snow!
20:14 < rore> ouch :) 
20:15  * rore enjoys cooking - that's safer :p 
20:17 < genete> rore: Mmmm... one parter of my work was two weeks sick leave due to a knife cut on his hand...
20:19 < rore> heh :/ I'm cautious with knifes ! :)
20:21 < rore> (because a bad cut on the hand means only one hand left to type, that's too difficult - and I'm not even using emacs :] )
20:23 < genete> my friend is left-handed writer but right-handed cooking so he damaged the useful hand for work 8O
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23:11 < genete> I have some icon proposals. 
23:11 < genete> One is a replacement for a current one (polygon icon)
23:11 < genete> http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/Genete/synfig/polygon_icon_proposal.png
23:11 < genete> the other are new ones:
23:12 < genete> http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/Genete/synfig/star_icon_proposal.png
23:12 < genete> http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/Genete/synfig/plant_icon_proposal.png
23:12 < genete> http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k74/Genete/synfig/text_icon_proposal.png
23:12 < genete> what do you think on the plant icon?
23:17 < rore> hm, for the polygon, at this I thought it was a "boolean operation" icon, it looks a lot like a rectangle minus a smaller rectangle
23:18 < genete> it is the current tango art libre set  polygon icon.
23:18 < genete> the pentagon is for regular polygons
23:18 < rore> the plant looks really fine to me
23:19 < rore> (hm, the polygon selection tool is even worse in Gimp2.5 at the moment :) )
23:21 < genete> there is not polygon in my gimp 2.2 :)
23:22 < rore> but yep, that polygon icon may be better than the current one
23:22 < rore> hehe, yes it's only in SVN :) But you should try 2.4 some day, there's some nice improvements ;)
23:24 < genete> OK, I'll upload a patch for those icons. Maybe some of them are adopted ;)
23:24 < rore> Anyway, I think the plant icon is my favorite. I hopes it gives good results in small size :)
23:29 < genete> Mmmm it loose some definition :\
23:30 < genete> I don't understand: synfigstudio scales the icons or render them at 128x128 and then GTKMM scales it?
23:31 < genete> I see all the icons at 128x128 at images folders so I guess that it would look ok
23:32 < rore> yes, that's strange
23:32 < genete> I believe that GTKMM scales it that gives better results
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23:35 < rore> hmm, I can't help but think it's strange that the images are generated at build time, and that big :) 
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