--- Log opened Thu Jan 08 00:00:45 2009 00:07 < genete> I'm off. Good night 00:07 -!- genete [n=carlos@79.108.35.41.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #synfig [] 01:17 -!- vince38 [n=vince38@78.115.214.136] has quit ["Leaving."] 01:44 -!- Skiessi [n=Skiez@dsl-roibrasgw1-ff30c100-170.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:40 < pabs3> creek23: please add your feature requests (like a per-user random splash screen) to the wishlist page if you haven't already, otherwise they will get lost in the IRC logs 03:27 < pabs3> creek23: if you'd like to implement that, we welcome patches :) 03:46 < AkhIL> http://code.goto10.org/projects/puredyne/ live linux with preinstalled synfig 04:21 < pabs3> ah, Debian based, nice 04:27 < AkhIL> you may need some offline tutorials to make synfig easy to start 04:29 < AkhIL> http://www.blendernation.com/2009/01/02/im-linux-video-contest-win-a-trip-to-tokyo/ <- synfigers may try to win this contest 04:36 < pabs3> can you post that in the forum?? 04:38 < AkhIL> pabs3, you'll do it better 8) 04:51 -!- wildhostile [n=wildhost@ALamentin-104-1-35-84.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:01 < pabs3> posted here: http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=332 05:08 < pabs3> hmm, akagogo's video got deleted 05:32 -!- pixelgeek [i=43bd429e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-828548cdd8d80998] has joined #synfig 05:35 < pixelgeek> Ah -pabs did you already take care of the spammer on the forum? 05:38 < pixelgeek> Must have - I don't see him anymore. 05:58 < pabs3> I deleted the posts yeah 06:03 < pixelgeek> :) 07:00 < pixelgeek> OK - I think I may be back in business shortly. 07:00 < pixelgeek> Whilst I couldn't delete the offending file 'Access Denied', it did let me rename it. Go figure. 07:01 < pixelgeek> Once I did that, it booted, and wasn't able to load it. Then I deleted it - Haha! 07:03 < pabs3> cool 07:04 < pixelgeek> Still some tidying up to do, and running as many virus scanners as I can, before I let it back on the internet. 07:06 < pixelgeek> Only my second virus in ~4 years on this machine. I guess I can't complain for a Windows machine ;) 07:44 < pixelgeek> 'night all 07:45 < pabs3> later 07:46 -!- pixelgeek [i=43bd429e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-828548cdd8d80998] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 08:39 -!- jrabbit_ [n=babyseal@64-126-53-193.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #synfig 08:40 -!- jrabbit_ [n=babyseal@64-126-53-193.dyn.everestkc.net] has left #synfig [] 10:57 -!- vince38 [n=vince38@78.115.214.136] has joined #synfig 11:58 -!- krish [n=krish@117.195.196.211] has joined #synfig 11:58 < krish> aha 11:59 < pabs3> hi krish, welcome to #synfig 11:59 < krish> :) 11:59 < krish> I am still using and newbie at Pencil 11:59 < krish> just bumped into synfig and was wondering if it had a irc channel 12:00 < krish> if someone would bestow some features of synfig on me, i'd want to change 12:00 < pabs3> (the channel is logged btw, see http://synfig.org/Contact) 12:01 < pabs3> we currently have few developers, so it may take some time. what are you after? 12:01 < krish> i want to make simple animations 12:01 < krish> pencil looks too simple 12:02 < krish> and hmm doesnt have good tools 12:02 < krish> i am wanting to know how synfig is better than pencil. will it be much easier to use and more tools at my disposal 12:03 < pabs3> pencil is frame by frame, whereas in synfig you draw some keyframes/waypoints and it interpolates the frames in between 12:03 < pabs3> http://synfig.org/Features 12:04 < pabs3> some tutorials: http://synfig.org/Tutorials 12:04 < krish> in short, synfig saves me of tideos work? 12:04 < pabs3> yeah, you could say that :) 12:04 < pabs3> haven't looked at pencil too much, so not sure of other differences 12:04 < krish> i dont think synfig is available in suse repos 12:05 < pabs3> synfig is mainly oriented at vector stuff 12:05 < krish> ok i'll read through the site :) 12:05 < krish> thks 12:05 < pabs3> some on the download page: http://synfig.org/Download#opensuse 12:06 < krish> synfig vs synfig studio? 12:08 < krish> 0.61 the latest i hope 12:08 < pabs3> command-line renderer vs gui tool for creating anims 12:08 < pabs3> 0.61.09 is the latest, or you can build from SVN 12:09 < krish> cool. so I am installing from packman (the repo I always fear :P) 12:10 < krish> I hope you dont mind me hanging and freaking out here from now ;) 12:10 < pabs3> please do :) 12:10 < pabs3> #synfig is welcome to all! 12:10 < pabs3> well, except spammers :) 12:11 < pabs3> some upcoming features btw; SVG import, bones, chromakey 12:11 < krish> oh very important. synfig supports pen tablet? 12:12 < pabs3> reportedly yes, I haven't tried it though 12:12 < krish> what are the current export formats? swf 12:12 < pabs3> only raster/video formats so far 12:12 < krish> pabs3: so you draw using mouse? Can I see some samples 12:12 < krish> pabs3: oh video format is good for me. heh 12:13 * krish talks too much. 12:13 * pabs3 not a god artist: http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/files/tmp/bugkilla.png 12:13 < pabs3> s/god/good 12:13 < pabs3> check the gallery too: http://synfig.org/Gallery 12:13 < pabs3> and the links to youtube/etc there 12:14 < krish> cool. I'll try things out 12:26 -!- DiploCat [n=slip@c122-106-148-207.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #synfig 12:27 < DiploCat> hello all 12:27 < pixelbot> Hello DiploCat 12:27 < krish> anyone has a toon smiling when tickled 12:28 < krish> expression of a toon smiling while tickling 12:28 < pabs3> hi DiploCat 12:29 < DiploCat> excuse me for asking a stupid question... but for a complete animation newbie, should I be focusing on cutout or vector animation? 12:29 < DiploCat> is it the case that vector animation is more advanced? 12:30 * pabs3 can't do either, so can't say anything about that 12:30 < pabs3> there have certainly been compelling synfig animations of both forms so far 12:31 < pabs3> the mouse in the demo reel is a great example of cutout, and the voria anims are all good vector stuff 12:31 < DiploCat> hehe 12:32 < DiploCat> fair enough 12:33 < pabs3> but try both IMO, pick whatever suits you better 12:33 < pabs3> or mix and match both techniques, that works too 12:37 < DiploCat> yeah... I think I'll just have to play around and see what fits 12:44 < pabs3> KiBi, rore: did you see the post about the crash with french translations? any thoughts? 12:45 < pabs3> http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=327 12:56 < creek23> if i made a poly with 4 ducks and wanted to edit it to have 5 or 3. how do I do that? 12:58 < pabs3> select one of the ducks, right click on it and choose delete or insert 13:02 < creek23> thanks. 13:19 -!- rubikcube [n=kvirc@dslc-082-082-069-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #synfig 13:22 -!- DiploCat [n=slip@c122-106-148-207.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:46 < rore> pabs3: wow, weird error. This is also the 1st time I see something fail because of a utf8/iso-latin difference. 14:24 -!- pabs3 [n=pabs@d122-104-117-149.per9.wa.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:25 -!- pabs3 [n=pabs@d122-104-117-149.per9.wa.optusnet.com.au] has joined #synfig 14:44 -!- creek23 [n=creek23@unaffiliated/creek23] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/"] 14:45 -!- creek23_ [n=creek23@124.217.75.28] has joined #synfig 14:47 < creek23_> my first time to browse the synfig sources. i will try to change the splash.cpp to load from ~/.synfig/splashes/{here} 15:15 -!- krish [n=krish@117.195.196.211] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:19 -!- krish [n=krish@117.195.199.11] has joined #synfig 15:56 < creek23_> err, what IDE do you use in writing Synfig? It's hard to find where a global/local variable is declared with Geany. 15:58 -!- creek23_ is now known as creek23 16:08 -!- Zelgadis [n=zelgadis@92.124.231.170] has joined #synfig 16:31 -!- creek23 [n=creek23@unaffiliated/creek23] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:51 < KiBi> pabs3: rore: I would bet for a corrupted fr.po file. 16:51 < KiBi> "corrupted" as containing invalid UTF-8 strings. 16:52 < KiBi> pabs3: I'll try and reproduce later on, with such a locale. 16:52 < KiBi> (Anyway, fr_FR.UTF-8 is the locale of choice :p) 17:37 -!- Zelgadis [n=zelgadis@92.124.231.170] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:46 < rore> corrupted or not, it's weird that it leads to a crash 17:52 -!- rore [n=rore__@111.228.119-80.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["Oops."] 17:52 -!- rore [n=rore__@111.228.119-80.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #synfig 17:53 < KiBi> rore: yup 17:55 < KiBi> http://structuresynth.sourceforge.net/ heh 17:55 < KiBi> (Baby ITP'd it.) 17:56 -!- creek23 [n=creek23@unaffiliated/creek23] has joined #synfig 17:56 < creek23> i got dc. so, umm, what IDE do you guys use in hacking synfig sources? 17:58 < rore> KiBi: that looks like something funny to play with. 17:58 < KiBi> creek23: vim/emacs, I think ;) 17:59 < rore> my only "hack" for synfig so far was finding the origin of an error some long time ago, and I did it with vim... (and grep :D) 17:59 < rore> now maybe others use some more complex editors 17:59 < rubikcube> more complex than emacs? 17:59 < rubikcube> :P 18:00 < rore> ksssss :p 18:00 < rubikcube> :D 18:00 -!- rubikcube [n=kvirc@dslc-082-082-069-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo"] 18:24 < creek23> umm, which one should i pick from this? http://gladewin32.sourceforge.net/ 18:25 < creek23> there's: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gladewin32/gtk-dev-2.12.9-win32-2.exe 18:25 < creek23> and: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gladewin32/gtk-dev-2.12.9-win32-1.exe 18:26 -!- pixelgeek [i=c0373406@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d27f7c085e696bb3] has joined #synfig 18:27 < pixelgeek> hola, toute la monde! 18:27 < pixelgeek> Wie gehts? 18:29 -!- Skiessi [n=Skiez@dsl-roibrasgw1-ff30c100-170.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #synfig 18:31 < pixelgeek> creek23: I haven't got Synfig built under Windows with anything newer than 2.10.something 18:32 < pixelgeek> (my PC is a little unwell right now) 18:32 < pixelgeek> The packages I was using don't appear to be actively updated. 18:33 < pixelgeek> The official branch packages appear to be missing pieces that Atrus's windows build recipe on the wiki needs. 18:33 < pixelgeek> I haven't gotten into what's missing and why. 18:35 < creek23> :( 18:36 < rore> pixelgeek: did you manage to get read of your virus/trojan/I-don't-remember-what ? 18:42 < creek23> err, is pixelgeek on windows? 18:42 < KiBi> rid :) 18:43 < rore> oops, yes, you should read rid where I wrote read, understand? :] 18:43 * KiBi -> headache 18:44 < pixelgeek> Yes, I'm on Windows. 18:44 < pixelgeek> Yes, I had a virus. 18:44 < pixelgeek> Well, a drive by trojan. 18:45 < pixelgeek> I I've gotten the best of it.... 18:46 < pixelgeek> I've deleted all the files that were created at that time. 18:46 < pixelgeek> I don't think I lost anything important. 18:47 < rore> (it's the snow, your computer caught a cold ;)) 18:47 < rore> well, hopefully your computer will be fine now :) 18:47 < pixelgeek> The annoying thing was that I knew as soon as I hit the webpage that I was in trouble. 18:47 < pixelgeek> I disconnected it from the network, but it was already too late. 18:48 < pixelgeek> The first thing it did was delete all my restore points. NICE! 18:48 < rore> indeed :/ 18:48 < pixelgeek> I think it'll be OK, but I'm going to do some more double checking and backing up before I let it loose again. 18:49 < KiBi> rore: pabs3: crash reproduced, I'll be debugging a bit later. 18:49 < pixelgeek> Lesson to all - don't forget to back up - you never know when you'll need it. 18:50 < KiBi> (especially those on suspicious OSes) 18:50 < pixelgeek> Hey, don't come running to me when your hard drive crashes.... ;) 18:51 < rore> "suspicious OSes", ahah :D 18:52 < pixelgeek> Or maybe the answer is - if you haven't found the information you're looking for in the first couple of Google pages, find another set of search terms - Don't click on the third page! 18:55 < KiBi> hmmmmm 18:55 < KiBi> 0x00007f6ab1fc3e30 in IA__g_markup_escape_text ( 18:55 < KiBi> text=0x246a000
, length=38182912) 18:55 < KiBi> at /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.16.6/glib/gmarkup.c:1952 18:55 < KiBi> 1952 /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.16.6/glib/gmarkup.c: No such file or directory. 18:55 < KiBi> in /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.16.6/glib/gmarkup.c 18:55 < KiBi> Current language: auto; currently c 18:55 < KiBi> The "out of bounds" part is kinda scary. 18:56 < KiBi> set_toolbar(*dynamic_cast(App::ui_manager()->get_widget("/toolbar-history"))); 18:56 < KiBi> in ./src/gtkmm/dock_history.cpp 18:56 < KiBi> seems to be the one 18:58 < KiBi> oh, there were full backtraces on the forums, oups :) 18:58 < rore> not used to users doing things the right way and giving the right info? :D 18:59 < KiBi> indeed :p 19:01 * pixelgeek afk 19:01 < KiBi> hmm, I'm not into i18n enough to spot what's going wrong here 19:18 -!- xerakko [n=Miguel@debian/developer/xerakko] has joined #synfig 19:31 -!- wildhostile [n=wildhost@ALamentin-104-1-19-243.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #synfig 19:55 -!- krish [n=krish@117.195.199.11] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:29 -!- wildhostile [n=wildhost@ALamentin-104-1-19-243.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:37 -!- rubikcube [n=kvirc@dslc-082-082-069-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #synfig 21:03 -!- rore [n=rore__@111.228.119-80.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["Oops."] 21:16 < creek23> do I need to install the whole Cygwin? I thought, Synfig is using MinGW? 21:20 -!- genete [n=carlos@79.108.35.41.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #synfig 21:50 -!- prokoudine [n=avp@217.118.66.73] has joined #synfig 22:41 -!- prokoudine [n=avp@217.118.66.73] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:42 -!- Skiessi [n=Skiez@dsl-roibrasgw1-ff30c100-170.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:54 -!- Skiessi [n=Skiez@dsl-roibrasgw1-ff30c100-170.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #synfig 23:13 < creek23> reporting a possible broken link: http://www.synfig.org/Building_on_Windows#_src_directory | OpenEXR 23:13 < creek23> and ilmbase 23:27 < pixelgeek> Ummm..... Links seem to be working for me? 23:27 < pixelgeek> Don't need the whole cygwin - just msys. 23:27 < genete> hi pixelgeek 23:28 < pixelgeek> hey genete 23:28 < genete> and creek23 and all 23:28 < genete> I'm entering in the January contest 23:28 < pixelgeek> show off. 23:28 < genete> uploading 23:28 < pixelgeek> Just 'cos you have a working PC 23:28 < pixelgeek> yeah, rub it in.... 23:29 < genete> oh! :-( 23:29 < pixelgeek> ;) 23:29 < genete> did you killed the virus? 23:31 < AkhIL> nice subject for linuxfoundation advert contest "linux has no viruses" 8) 23:33 < genete> http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2031#p2031 23:33 < genete> why do I put all the verbs in past when I have just used 'did'? Arrrrghh! 23:34 < AkhIL> genete, interesting image 23:35 < genete> AkhIL: thanks :) 23:35 < pixelgeek> I think I killed it.... 23:37 < AkhIL> http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=332 The topic is a 60-second "I'm Linux" video, check it out! 23:38 < vince38> 60 sec max :) 23:39 < AkhIL> i'll try to do one advert 23:39 < AkhIL> or even sequence of adverts with same style 23:39 < genete> AkhIL: good luck! 23:40 < AkhIL> actualy video advertisements have a standart. 5,10,15,30,60 sec 23:40 < AkhIL> perhaps somebody else want to try? 23:41 < genete> AkhIL: if you have the story I would be glad on contribute with some animation task or art. For me the problem is a good story (in only 60 seconds) 23:42 < genete> (and going to Japan doesn't excite me so much so if you win you go ;)) 23:42 < creek23> was there a "I'm GNU/Linux" animation contest in Synfig community? 23:43 < creek23> i've changed the links to ilmbase and openexp to "no-redirect" links 23:43 < AkhIL> take one as a gift. "viruses doesn't eat linux" 23:43 < creek23> just to make sure the mirror is not stopping someone to download it ;) 23:44 < creek23> better said than "viruses doesn't care linux" 23:44 < creek23> :D 23:44 < creek23> *"viruses doesn't care about linux" 23:44 < genete> Linux doesn't care about viruses I think is better 23:45 < creek23> :P 23:45 < creek23> GNU/Linux says "vi, vir, eh what?" ^^ 23:48 < creek23> where there some animation contest in synfig? 23:48 < genete> http://synfig.org/Challenges 23:48 < genete> it is in the main page 23:49 < genete> click on the red big icon "design challenges!" 23:49 < genete> Hmm it is out of date 23:52 < creek23> can't browse it for now. im compiling synfig on my windows box. -- too..... slow... urgh! 23:52 -!- xerakko [n=Miguel@debian/developer/xerakko] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 23:55 * pixelgeek knows the feeling 23:55 * pixelgeek saving up for a core i7 23:57 * AkhIL encodes 4 x264 video streams each with 4 threads without 23:57 < AkhIL> and system not so slow 23:58 < genete> what means "slow" :-P 23:58 < pixelgeek> What do you have 'under the hood'? 23:59 < AkhIL> slow for me it's when I should wait gui --- Log closed Fri Jan 09 00:00:14 2009