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11:50 < krish[0]> hwo do you make a multiple scene animation
11:51 < krish[0]> making them in parts and then joining the video files?
11:57 -!- genete [n=carlos@79.108.35.41.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #synfig
11:58 < genete> krish[0]: joining the video files is a common task from a video editor. There are lots of them command line and some with GUI. You can even do that in synfig by importing the image sequence you exported form synfig too. But synfig has not sound support yet :(
11:59 < genete> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software
12:08 < krish[0]> oh no sound hmm.. can audacity help
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12:26 < genete> pabs3: when you have time, it would be awesome if you write an small tutorial to explaining how to add modules to synfig. 
12:26 < pabs3> sure
12:27 < pabs3> I'm off to linux.conf.au at midnight then travelling for a few days. prob will have time during the conf
12:27 < pabs3> it is fairly simple, setting them up to provide targets or layers is a bit harder
12:31 < genete> thank you very much. Good trip and enjoy linux.conf.au. Post any photo or video you take or someone takes you ;)
12:57 < pabs3> sure :)
12:58 < pabs3> might get to do a lightning talk about synfig if I'm organised enough
13:00 < krish[0]> i created a bline outline and forgot to tick region hehe :)
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13:31 < genete> krish: just create a region, select the both outline and the region layers and do right click on the bline parameter and select 'link'. That would link both blines.
13:59 < krish> hmm nice thanks :)
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14:16 < Zelgadis> rore, akagogo: thanks! I will wait for results.
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15:47 < djedai> Hi,genete
15:47 < genete> hi
15:47 < djedai> ^_^
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16:18 < genete> hi akagogo (or should I say auriel ;))
16:18 < akagogo> plop
16:18 < akagogo> akagogo please
16:19 < rore> Hola Carlos! ( tadaaaa, 2 persons in one sentence :) )
16:19 < akagogo> (here everyone calls me carlitos :D(like you), everywhere)
16:19 < genete> and in the same native language! Bon jour madamme 
16:20 < rore> ^^ 
16:22 < rore> hm, I must remember to test zelgadis package
16:34 < rore> So ... it's easy to install, yes. But all I have now is a "Floating point exception" :]
16:36 < genete> allow exceptions rore! don't be so restrictive! let the points floooooaaaat :)
16:37 < rore> hehehe
16:38  * rore divides genete by zero 
16:38  * genete jumps to infinite and beyond!
16:39 < akagogo> it's 8
16:40 < genete> well, it depends on how much is my own value... if I'm zero on the left... I'll be undetermined (0/0)
16:41 < akagogo> o.o how do you feel be asymptotic? is other dimension?
16:43 < genete> errr, I see all you like depreciable epsilons...
16:43 < rore> the imaginary one
16:44  * rore divides genete by epsilon instead of zero, then
16:44 < genete>  /o\ you raised an exception! I'm turning into an artifact! :-P
16:46 < rore> tsssss :)
16:51 < genete> out
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17:57 < krish> how'd I add a gradient from color to transparency!
18:01 < rore> see the gradient editor? There's an alpha slider, that allows you to set the transparency 
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20:44 < dutch201> hi
20:48 < rore> hello dutch201 
20:54 < dutch201> hi :)
20:55 < dutch201> i tried the time loop layer to make a walk cycle
20:55 < dutch201> but now i wonder how you would stop the cycle after 4 times repeating or so 
20:56 < dutch201> and then animate the character further :S
20:56 < dutch201> if you understand what i mean
20:57 < rore> yes, I'm trying to remember how to do it, because yes it's possible :)
20:58 < dutch201> how do you do a walk cycle? i had to copy all the waypoint positions to make the last keyframe line up with the first
20:58 < dutch201> which was quite some work :P
21:01 < rore> well, I think i'll start by setting some "global" keyframe at the begining and the end of the cycle (let's say a that a walk takes 2 seconds, then I'll set keyframes at 0 and 2s)
21:01 < rore> and then work on the "in between" position
21:02 < rore> (what I call the "global keyframe" is this : http://synfig.org/Keyframes_Panel -- adding a keyframe here adds keyframes for all the parameters of the object, and not only on some points)
21:03 < dutch201> ah great!
21:03 < dutch201> i think that is what i was missing :D
21:03 < dutch201> i would go to KF 0, go into edit, move some thinmgs in the hope that it would be a keyframe
21:04 < dutch201> and the after editing KF whattever i would find that KF 0 was not as i expected it would be
21:04 < rore> yes, setting a KF at 0 is often a good choice 
21:05 < rore> For the timeloop, check the "only for positibe duration" in the parameters of the timeloop. And when you want to stop your timeloop, in "Animat edit mode" set the duration of the timeloop to 0 and the interpolation to Linear
21:06 < rore> ( http://synfig.org/Waypoint#Interpolation -- right click on the waypoint and "Both" to change it)
21:08 < dutch201> ok thanks for the help
21:08 < rore> Synfig really gives me the feeling I'm talking a new and strange language 
21:08 < dutch201> yes i am still getting my head around it :)
21:09 < rore> Not sure that my explanations are clear, but well, I hope it helped a little ^^
21:09 < dutch201> yes definitely, it helps a lot
21:09 < dutch201> i did not realize a "global" keyframe
21:11 < rore> I remember that was the 1st way to set keyframes that I discovered, and so, for every KF I needed to move *all* the points in my objects ... That wasn't easy, haha. 
21:11 < dutch201> yea :)
21:11 < dutch201> i kinda did that until now :P
21:13 < dutch201> how long have you been working with synfig? or animation?
21:15 < rore> ewww... I started to use synfig a little more than a year ago, and I must say that I really don't use it often. I'm not very interested in animation, but I still like Synfig
21:16 < krish> which foss software do ya guys use to mix audio on video track?
21:17 < krish> i just finished rendering an avi output of my second animation
21:17 < dutch201> kdenlive?
21:18 < krish> ya I am installing that already
21:18  * rore is even worse at sound than animation ... so no answer from me, I don't add audio to videos :)
21:18 < krish> never used it... so asked
21:18 < dutch201> there is also cinelerra
21:19 < krish> rore: :)
21:19 < dutch201> i have not added sound either :P
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21:29 < dutch201> thanks for the help rore, bye!
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21:38 < vince38> Hi to all :)
21:46 < rore> 'soir
21:47 < genete> !quote
21:47 < pixelbot> My 2D animation program can blur, distort, spherize, twirl, warp, fractal, bevel, shade...oh, yours can blur? How cute."
21:49 < vince38> lol
21:54 < rore> hm, is there a way to automagicaly add quotes to pixelbot?
21:58 < genete> :) it can be dangerous... ;)
21:58 < genete> what would happen if you tells pixelbot to quote this: "!quote"
21:58 < genete> he can enter in a endless loop :-P
21:58  * genete hides
22:03 < rore> hehe
22:03 < rore> !quote
22:03 < pixelbot> From the code - "I apologize for the lack of documentation and source commentation. Obviously, this will change in later releases." :)))
22:03 < rore> hm hm, interesting part of the code :)
22:08  * rore laughs looking at http://www.flickr.com/photos/mwichary/2247834676/in/pool-computer-history . Am I normal?
22:09 < genete> yes, and old ;)
22:10  * vince38 don't really get what is funny in the pic:-D
22:13 < rore> oh god ... old ? I was sure that even people that are 20 knew this *sad* 
22:13 < rore> or maybe I just had an old computer when I was a kid
22:15 < rore> vince38: you never had the "bad luck" to use MS-DOS?
22:16 < vince38> i practiced it a little bit some years ago...but a very little bit
22:16 < genete> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8.3_filename
22:16 < akagogo> lol (I'm 20 years)
22:18 < genete> I've used VMS even! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAX/VMS
22:18 < rore> akagogo \o/ (*sigh of relief*, I'm not too old :D)
22:20 < rore> vince38: no need to read the whole link given by genete, just the "3." in the "Overview". The bad habit Msdos had to cut names and add ~1, ~2, etc. after
22:21 < vince38> oh ok, i was lost
22:34 < genete> not to add quotes to pixelbot but a diary quote from it would be funny :) 
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