--- Log opened Wed Jan 28 00:00:50 2009
00:05 < genete> pixelgeek. I just modified the patch changing the first "value" by "name" at the lines where the compiler complains about it. Anything more. 
00:05 < genete> Any idea akagogo?
00:10 < genete> night people
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00:10 < pixelgeek> ugh
00:10 < pixelgeek> 'night!
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01:56 < pabs3> Yaco: is there video of your piksel.no talk?
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02:35 < akagogo_> hi
02:36 < akagogo_> ups genete isn't here :(
02:40 < pabs3> he reads the logs, you can just leave a message for him here
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06:53 < krish> hi, is the svg import available in binaries?
06:54 < krish> or only on the svn/cvs
06:55 < pabs3> neither
06:55 < pabs3> http://synfig.org/FAQ#Why_do_imported_SVG_images_look_bad.3F
06:55 < krish> umgh
06:56 < pabs3> http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=340
07:00 < krish> miao. its waiting to be fixed for those errors and hmm license!
07:00  * krish guesses he'll wiat
07:00 < krish> s/wiat/wait
07:02 < krish> how does the xcf -> sif work?           my every layer in gimp will be imported as seperate layer in synfig?
07:02 < pabs3> no idea, never tried it
07:03 < krish> ah, i read something here.. http://synfig.org/Gimp2synfig
07:03 < krish> worth a try.
07:04 < krish> i use gimp and the problem is if i want to show the animated video on bigger screen quality goes crappy
07:04  * krish should have learnt inkscape.. sigh
07:20 < Yaco> pabs3,  there is no video of piksel.no
07:20 < pabs3> ok
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09:09 < AkhIL> auch. I should reshare gimp2synfig
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09:50 < krish> AkhIL: why?
10:01 < AkhIL> because of I'm not using nm.ru anymore
10:01 < AkhIL> already done
10:01 < AkhIL> now wiki links to file at googlepages.com
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10:41 < genete> AkhIL: maybe you can upload the images of that gimp2synfig converter wiki page to the wiki itself. ImageShack pop up windows is very annoying.
10:42 < AkhIL> pop up windows???
10:43 < genete> yes, IE here :)
10:44 < AkhIL> much simpler (for me) use ff or opera or whatever
10:45 < genete> I don't have rights on this computer to use other browser. Anyway it is better to have the images, even the pluging uploaded to the wiki. Don't you think so?
10:47 < AkhIL> i agree, but to lazy
10:51 < AkhIL> perhaps in another day but no chance to do it today
10:56 < genete> No problem. Anyway thanks for that pluging. It is very useful. Dind't know about it before today :)
10:57 < genete> Import a xcf file using convert doesn't work and it is a pain to write a module to parse the xcf format file :)
11:21 < krish>        ive seen some videos where the rocket divides itself
11:21 < krish> has anyone got one?
11:22 < krish> consider a rocket like this http://69.90.174.247/photos/display_pic_with_logo/68929/68929,1177764062,2.jpg
11:23 < krish> does it land same and back to earth? or it divides or something!
11:28 < genete> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf2fpioXpFU
11:30 < krish> oh i have seen this. its nice. but i cant use this in my animation can i :)
11:31 < krish> how do you do that smoke thingy
11:32 < genete> I think that the source of the animation is available in the forum. See the challenge areas. I only want you mention me as the primary autor of the artwork. It uses particles though so be careful when manipulate the files
11:33 < krish> nice
11:35 < genete> files must be in the same folder and keep all them together to be able to work. They are internally linked so if you separate them you broke the animation.
11:50 < krish> did anyone notice that the image importer is showing 2 occurences of every file in the filesystem
11:51 < AkhIL> same problem
11:51 < AkhIL> because of i did duble click
11:51 < AkhIL> seems gtk bug
11:51 < AkhIL> just open this directory again
11:53 < krish> oh hmm this time it came corrent
11:53 < krish> correct
11:53 < krish> i dont have gtk
11:53 < krish> qt
11:53 < krish> i think this happened because i did not use clicks. i typed my way till the file
11:54 < genete> krish: you are running synfigstudio without gtk?
11:56 < krish> uh unknown dependency
11:56 < krish> :P
11:56 < krish> could have got installed
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14:17 < krish> is mpg better or avi
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14:26 < rubikcube> I vote for apples instead of oranges :) 
14:26 < genete> both are containers. It depends on the video coded
14:28 < rubikcube> both can mean containers. isn't H.264 a codec by mpeg?
14:30 < genete> mpg (or mpeg) seems to be a standard (like jpeg) and it is a video file extension too
14:32 < rubikcube> "they" should start using less confusing names, e.g. separate names for organizations, containers and codecs :)
14:33 < krish> yeah i am trying to add audio to my animation using kdenlive but unable to decide the final output render format
14:34 < genete> use ogg. Promote the open source formats :)
14:35 < genete> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg
14:37 < rubikcube> correct. At least if you can convince the audience to use a compatible player ;)
14:38 < krish> genete: well id love to
14:39 < krish> but kdenlive is giving errors converting to ogg
14:39 < krish> else my first preference was ogg
14:39 < genete> use ffmpeg
14:39 < krish> what'd be the extension?
14:40 < genete> ffmpeg2theora 
14:41 < krish> nah i mean the extension of files in ffmpeg. i need to see if kdenlive allows that
14:41 < genete> http://www.synfig.org/How_do_I#Render_to_AVI_with_higher_quality.3F
14:41 < genete> ffmpeg2theora render/frame.%04d.png --inputfps <frame rate> -o my_animation.ogg
14:43 < krish> genete: i understood that thnks. but i need to add audio to my animations. i use kdenlive for that
14:43 < krish> the final animation will be output from kdenlive. i dont see kdenlive having ffmpeg listed in render screen
14:43 < genete> use VLC better
14:43 < genete> if you don't need to tweak the sound
14:44 < krish> i need to :)
14:44 < krish> cut and modify . add effects to sound and all
14:44 < genete> cinelerra?
14:44 < krish> works?
14:44 < genete> for me yes
14:45 < krish> genete: could i pls look at some of your animations?
14:46 < genete> done with cinelerra?
14:47 < krish> installing
14:47 < krish> my repos are refreshing
14:47 < genete> 32 or 64 bits?
14:48 < krish> 32
14:48 < genete> better
14:48 < genete> 64 bits have some limitations
14:49 < krish> brb. got call
14:50 < genete> according to kdenlive documentation: "Kdenlive supports most open-standards formats: ogg, vorbis and matrovska (experimental)."
15:02 < krish> well it has ogg listed but the rendering fails
15:02 < krish> i am going for flv for now :(
15:03 < genete> did you satisfied all the dependecies? maybe you need additional librarires
15:04 < genete> s/satisfied/satisfy
15:07 < krish> nah, all dependencies as listed by my package manager were fulfilled
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15:18 < rubikcube> even optional dependencies?
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16:10 < genete> hey Zelgadis 
16:10 < Zelgadis> hey, genete!
16:10 < genete> would you be the Representative of Synfig in the contest? ;)
16:12 < Zelgadis> genete: Ha-ha! I can't. Have no money for that. But more important - I should dedicate my time to MP. Thanks for suggestion! I'm honored.
16:13 < genete> money? I think that it is free of charge if we win a price
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16:21 < Ivashka2> Hi, genete Zelgadis wall[e] krish^_^
16:22 < genete> hey, how's your English Ivashka?
16:23 < Ivashka2> bad^_^
16:23 < Zelgadis> genete: Still, Morevna Project is my primary target this year. I really would like to be Representative, but I can't promise anything on this spring/summer.
16:26 < genete> Yes, it is so far away but it is also good to know the potential event's date, long time before to acommodate your schedule. (Potential because only need to go if we win something)
16:26 < genete> I'm considering going too but only with full agreement of all of you.  :)
16:27 < Zelgadis> go, genete, go!!! ^____^
16:32 < genete> Anyway I need something from you or someone else. I don't have a laptop but I can borrow one with windows Vista installed. I would like to be able to run synfigstudio in a bootable Ubuntu CD. Any ideas?
16:33 < prokoudine> genete: ping Ubuntu Studio guys hard
16:33 < prokoudine> genete: with a steel ruler
16:33 < genete> but that synfigstudio version is crappy! they still with 0.61.08!!
16:34 < genete> Hmm an UbuntuStudio backport?
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16:34 < genete> I thikn they just rely on Ubuntu's packages
16:35 < Zelgadis> genete: Use my package of synfigstudio
16:35 < Ivashka> bye
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16:35 < genete> I have to test if a live CD and your package installs fine.
16:35 < Zelgadis> genete: It could be installed directly onto Ubuntu livecd 
16:36 < genete> and the dependences?
16:36 < Zelgadis> genete: No dependencies ^____^
16:36 < wall[e]> hi Ivashka2 & Zelgadis
16:36 < genete> have you tested it already?
16:36 < Zelgadis> Except generic (like X11, gtk2)
16:36 < Zelgadis> wall[e]: Hi!
16:36 < genete> hi wall[e] 
16:37 < wall[e]> hi genete :)
16:37 < Zelgadis> genete: Yes - I mentioned Ubuntu versions tested with packages in forum thread. I've tested on livecds
16:37 < Zelgadis> genete: But it will be good if you will test it again for yourself ^__^
16:38 < genete> coolioo!
16:38 < genete> 2GB is enough RAM I think
16:38 < Zelgadis> yep! That's the reason why I making morevnapackages
16:39 < Zelgadis> 2GB is enough - Ive tested on machine which had 2GB RAM
16:41 < genete> I'll burn a CD this evening!
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17:21 < krish> what is morevna?
17:21 < Zelgadis> krish: http://morevnaproject.org/
17:24 < krish> oh cool
17:25 < krish> i have a secret project of mine going too
17:25 < krish> :)
17:25 < krish> it wont be that anime as morevna. it'd be more of toonish
17:26 < Zelgadis> krish: Interesting to see.
17:28 < Zelgadis> genete, pabs3, prokoudine: Synfig 0.61.09 is in Jaunty: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synfig
17:31 < krish> they didnt port it to hardy?
17:31 < genete> cool, anyway I want to test your binaries with a live CD
17:36 < krish> anyone tried gimp2synfig on gimp 2.6?
17:36 < krish> i just dont have file -> export anymore and under save a copy I dont get sifz option!
17:37 < Zelgadis> krish: you should open backport reauest (bug) in launchpad
17:37 < Zelgadis> genete: And I want to see test results ~_^
17:37 < krish> backport!
17:37 < krish> on gimp?
17:38 < Zelgadis> krish: No, backport of synfig to hardy
17:38 < Zelgadis> krish: About gimp 2.6:
17:38 < krish> naho, i dont use hardy. on suse here
17:38 < krish> and i have the latest synfig and latest gimp
17:38 < krish> 2.6.3
17:38 < Zelgadis> krish: Consider, gimp 2.6 stores settings in separate ~/.gimp-2.6 directory
17:39 < krish> i need a forward port i guess heh
17:39 < Zelgadis> your old settings are in ~/.gimp-2.4 if you have ones
17:39 < krish> Zelgadis: yes i have 2.4 and 2.6 directory, (since i upgraded from 2.4)
17:39 < krish> i put the script in 2.6/plug-ins
17:39 < krish> gave execute permissions too
17:40 < Zelgadis> krish: Ah, that was just a supposition. ^_^
17:40 < Zelgadis> I could test gimp2synfig here right now
17:41 < genete> gimp2synfig is a pyton script made by AkhIL. I guess that if it doesn't work with a new version you have to fix it by your self not by Gimp people...
17:41 < krish> yes
17:41 < krish> guess so
17:42 < krish> i see changelog - last fix for gimp -2.2
17:43 < krish> im screwed :(
17:44 < Zelgadis> krish: Works fine here
17:44 < Zelgadis> Gimp 2.6.2
17:45 < Zelgadis> krish: I have file -> export -> synfig option
17:45 < Zelgadis> (Export is at the very bottom of file menu)
17:45 < Zelgadis> (below Quit)
17:46 < krish> i was looking under python-fu
17:46 < Zelgadis> Bedtime here, bye!
17:46 < krish> bye n thks
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17:54 < krish> ohh. its being imported as a single image rather than multiple layers
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18:28 < AkhIL> gentoo still have only 2.4 gimp
18:32 < rubikcube> oh yes, true :) dunno why...
18:34 < AkhIL> i'm trying to export something in arch's 2.6
18:36 < AkhIL> perhaps 2.6 still buggy
18:38 < AkhIL> for example i have garbage instead of rulers
18:38 < AkhIL> exporter works ok in 2.6.4
18:41 < AkhIL> no problem. just got opened image with a lot of layers exported by synfigexport.py
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18:43 < genete> hey akagogo 
18:44 < genete> ups, need to go. ttyl
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22:53 < genete> http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=360
22:53 < genete> please feed back :)
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