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05:22 < pixelgeek> hey akagogo - did you find png2ico yet?
05:23 < akagogo> hi
05:23 < akagogo> i dont know
05:24 < akagogo> i have png2ico i think
05:28 < akagogo> i'm looking for png2ico iin synfigstudio's script
05:35 < pixelgeek> huh - got me....
05:55 < pixelgeek> It only seems to show up in the logs.  Bizarre.
05:56 < akagogo> :S
06:42 < akagogo> btw, these scripts always rebuild all again and again and it's getting boring
06:44 < akagogo> someone awake? here it's 1:00 am
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07:08 < pixelgeek> Just nodding of myself...
07:09 < pixelgeek> Yoyobuae made some edits to the scripts that eliminated the pointless deletions of the build dirs. 
07:16 < pixelgeek> I can repost them if you want
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08:09 < pixelgeek> Anyone planning on being in Montreal in May?   http://www.libregraphicsmeeting.org/2009/project.php
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11:19 < genete> I guess that you have received the mail at synfig-devel mailing list from the LGM people. 
11:19 < genete> They are asking us to enter in the event
11:21 < rore> synfig-devel! That remind me I completely forgot to re-subscribe to synfig MLs. Oops. 
11:22 < genete> I personally cannot afford to go there but they say that can get partial founds if we are active at LGM (like giving a presentation)
11:22 < genete> Ayone?
11:23 < genete> Anyone?
11:27 < rore> Can't afford, either. Plus, I suppose it means having a valid passport and all, and I know it take time (and money) to get that too. 
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11:29 < genete> oh passport! I didn't remember that!
12:02 < genete> Anyone near Montreal and who likes Synfig? :roll:
12:14 < Bombe> Me!
12:14 < Bombe> Wait, no.
12:14 < Bombe> Actually I’m quite far away from Montreal.
13:00 < rore> if you're on the same continent it's already a good start :D
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13:42 < genete> rore: seriously, will you try the bounce ball challenge entry?
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20:42 < rootdown> hello synfig channel
20:42 < rootdown> I have a question for you
20:43 < genete> hi rootdown
20:43 < rootdown> is all that stuff to do with the simple gnu environment, etc, necessary to make synfig work on windows
20:43 < rootdown> or is that just if you want to develop for it
20:44 < rore> hi too 
20:44 < rore> not sure there's a windows nerd here at the moment, although I may be wrong 
20:45 < genete> rootdown: you mean gtk and gtkmm packages?
20:45 < genete> hi rore
20:45 < rootdown> yeah
20:45 < rore> genete: yep, at least I *plan* to make the boucing ball stuff. (ATM I'm finishing my february anim)
20:46 < genete> rore: :) cool. You know that you can enter your entries at any time!
20:46 < genete> rootdown: it is not for developing it is for make it working. So they are needed
20:47 < rootdown> ok, yikes
20:47 < rootdown> thanks
20:47 < Yoyobuae> rootdown: there should be a setup executable for those though
20:48 < rore> (for developing you just need notepad </joke>)
20:49 < Yoyobuae> rore: nah, just a hex editor and edit the binaries directly :P
20:51 < Yoyobuae> rore: or even better: http://flickr.com/photos/seafoam/503496984/
20:54 < rore> Yoyobuae: that reminds me of my father talking about the time when "patching" a program really meant "find the right IBM punchcard, add a piece of tape on some of the holes" :]
20:56 < Yoyobuae> rore: hehe, the word "patching" probably made far better sense back then ;)
20:57 < rootdown> ah, there we go
20:57 < rore> ( punchcard example for those who don't have the "luck" to know that :) http://flickr.com/photos/listorama/2158926001/ ) 
20:57 < rootdown> okay so all this other stuff I got distracted by was a waste of time
20:58 < rootdown> i mistook build instructions for installation instructions
21:00 < Yoyobuae> hehe, i think that we need an "Installation" link on the the webpage xD
21:06 < Yoyobuae> hmm, everything needed for installation is on http://www.synfig.org/Download#windows
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22:41 < vonHalenbach> moin
22:43 < Yoyobuae> hi =)
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22:50 < rore> genete: almost done \o/
22:51 < genete> \o/
22:51 < genete> me too! :)
22:54 < rore> the march one?! 
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22:54 < rore> genete: ok, one challenge per year for me, two per month for you :p
22:55 < genete> :p
22:55 < genete> yeah
22:58 < rore> *sigh* ... the ui says "file rendered succesfully" while the console says "ffmpeg: symbol lookup error: ffmpeg: undefined symbol: ffm_nopts" ... 
23:01 < prokoudine_> classical logic
23:01 < prokoudine_> two persons
23:02 < prokoudine_> one says "I'm such a lier"
23:02 < prokoudine_> which of them lies?
23:02 < prokoudine_> :)
23:02 < rore> hehe :] 
23:03 < rore> here the liar is the IU, except that it says "I always say the truth, I promise" 
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23:08 < pixelgeek> moin
23:09 < pixelgeek> Hey, rore, if your stickman is bouncing a ball.......  
23:09 < genete> morning
23:09 < pixelgeek> hey genete 
23:09 < pixelgeek> morning? 
23:09 < rore> moin pixelgeek. Ahahaha, no, sadly no, I didn't thought of that in time, now it's too late :)
23:09 < Yoyobuae> pixelgeek: 2 for 1 =)
23:10 < pixelgeek> It's 2:10 here
23:10 < rore> Almost morning - in 50mn :] 
23:10 < pixelgeek> I guess I should add 'pm' just in case there's any doubt.
23:11 < pixelgeek> yay rootdown - another windows user.
23:12 < rore> I had a doubt, but 2:10am would have meant you changed your timezone :]
23:12 < rore> ("would have meant" ? Urghhh the tenses...)
23:12 < pixelgeek> hey - it could happen - plate tectonics and all that...  
23:12 < genete> pixelgeek: ugh! I'm cold! I've lost time sense :-/
23:12 < pixelgeek> (course you may have noticed if it had)
23:13 < pixelgeek> You're cold?  Or you have a cold?
23:19 < rore> I think he just froze :D
23:24 < rore> Crap! I give up, no render for me. If someone with a working renderer want to try to render my file, I'll be grateful.
23:24 < genete> send me the file and I'll render it for you
23:24 < pixelgeek> Sure
23:25 < Yoyobuae> maybe we should setup a "Web Synfig" service xD
23:25 < vonHalenbach> yeah!
23:25 < genete> pixelgeek: I have a cold. And it makes me think and speak English very bad :)
23:25 < pixelgeek> Bless you!
23:25 < rore> http://rore.dyndns.org/rore/synfig/stickmanAni2b.sifz for anyone that want to try 
23:26 < genete> http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2596#p2596
23:26 < vonHalenbach> genete, drink hot milk with honey. That helps.
23:26 < rore> and no, it's not a guitar player as planed :( 
23:26 < rore> vonHalenbach: and rum! :D
23:26 < vonHalenbach> lol
23:27 < vonHalenbach> if it is good jamaikan rum, then yes.
23:27 < genete> rore: missing jpeg file
23:27 < rore> ah, the jpeg file isn't used, I forgot to remove the reference to it 
23:28 < pixelgeek> genete's bound to beat me - I'm on my work PC - a PIII - 1.7GHz
23:28 < rore> genete: and your boucing ball is excellent :)
23:28 < rore> with shadows and all... wow :D
23:29 < pixelgeek> rore - that's a funny animation!
23:29 < genete> rore: hahahahah nice!
23:29 < genete> rore: what format do you want it?
23:30 < rore> well, some avi I could upload to youtube?
23:30 < genete> Coming up right now!
23:30 < rore> ahahah, genebot :]
23:30 < pixelgeek> :P still renderig here. 
23:31 < rore> I'm trying to render to gif, just to see ... Well, that seems very long, for a gif 
23:32 < genete> 928 kb here rore
23:32 < rore> and for the "joke" in the animation, I think that's something I saw a long time ago, maybe it was from "La linea", not sure. 
23:33 < pixelgeek> :P still renderig here. 
23:33 < genete> uploading to mediafire
23:33 < rore> ok, thanks :)
23:33 < pixelgeek> Mind you, I don't think this PC's fast enough to show genete's bouncing ball and render to a gif.  
23:35 < genete> pixelgeek: I'm sorry :(
23:35 < pixelgeek> genete: Very impressive
23:35 < rore> and here it's still trying to render my animation as a gif (1.4MB gif so far)
23:35 < genete> rore: I did a trick
23:35 < genete> I rendered to png sequence and then composed it with Avidemux
23:35 < genete> http://www.mediafire.com/?lxwjtgwb2wm
23:35 < genete> I hope the codec is readable for anyone :)
23:36 < Yoyobuae> genete: what codec? png sequence like that other time? :P
23:36 < genete> pixelgeek: I can just place the link and if someone want to see just follow it
23:36 < genete> Yoyobuae: no no , he he, xvid this time ;)
23:37 < rore> genete: many thanks, got it 
23:37 < pixelgeek> genete: works under WMP here.
23:37 < genete> rore: genebot at your service!
23:38 < rore> ^^ 
23:38 < rore> pixelbot: sudo make a grog for genete :)
23:38 < pixelbot> Coming right up!
23:38 < pixelgeek> :P still rendering here. 
23:38 < rore> hahah
23:39 < genete> pixelgeek: º<
23:40 < Yoyobuae> quack quack? 
23:40 < Yoyobuae> º<
23:40 < Yoyobuae> >º
23:40 < genete> you're just justifying yourself in front of your wife... "Oh my love, look how slow is this computer! I cannot render a file and see genete's gif!, I need a i7!"
23:40 < rore> I prefer \_o< 
23:40 < rore> ahah :) 
23:41 < rore> (2.8MB and still rendering the gif... I wonder how big it'll be)
23:41 < genete> rore: have you got magick++ installed?
23:41 < genete> imagemagick is a pain and gif sizes are awful
23:42 < Yoyobuae> maybe if you turn off anti-aliasing, file would be much smaller with only 2 colors =)
23:42 < vonHalenbach> i have a swf which is 4.7MB big.
23:43 < vonHalenbach> rore, interested?
23:43 < rore> I have magick++ yes (and imagemagick too, dunno which one is used)
23:43 < rore> ??? I can't read swf 
23:43 < vonHalenbach> with gnash, you can.
23:45 < pixelgeek> o<
23:45 < pixelbot> >o
23:45 < genete> if someone load the sifz of the bounce ball, can see something funny: the sky is a very very big vertical gradient from cyan to black. (I planned to do a huge gigantic bounce ball focusing the ball with the camera widget... but finally I just did that :))
23:46 < rore> vonHalenbach: no gnash here :)
23:46 < vonHalenbach> :)
23:46 < vonHalenbach> maybe you can install gnash?
23:47 < vonHalenbach> sudo apt-get gnash no?
23:49 < rore> Well, gnash didn't like me, so I decided I won't like it. ( A year ago I installed it, and then once I had had to reboot because the comp was completely unresponsive after gnash decided to eat all the ram and more - just to display a damn advert ... Grrrr. Even the "magick keys" weren't effective. I had to do a hard reboot. I won't forget :] 
23:50 < vonHalenbach> okay.
23:51 < genete> if someone is interested: do the bounce with waypoints is very easy to using the graph panel as visual guide.
23:51 < rore> leave me one more year, and then maybe I'll accept to install gnash ^^
23:52 < rore> ahah, I almost didn't noticed the stickman in pixelgeek's anim ^^
23:52 < pixelgeek> He was going to go on to much greater things, but I ran out of time.  
23:53 < pixelgeek> rore: how long did yours take once you actually started on it?
23:54 < vonHalenbach> rore, i think you could also use firefox with adobe-flash installed.
23:54 < rore> errrrm... without the "scratch that and start from the beginning again" parts, maybe 3h 
23:54 < pixelgeek> (Actually the hidden goal was to see if I could get away without making him walk)
23:55 < pixelgeek> Yup, mine was about that for the two combined.  
23:55 < pixelgeek> 2nd one went much quicker than the firts. 
23:55 < pixelgeek> 2nd one went much quicker than the first
23:55 < rore> but more like 10h, if I count the "how can I connect things together so it behaves like bones? - Yay it works! - oh crap it breaks the animation! Back to zero!" 
23:56 < rore> also, 10h with IRC chatting at the same time, and me being distracted by just everything (cat, youtube, phone, music) ^^' 
23:58 < pixelgeek> Yay! file rendered successfully!
23:59 < rore> ahah, just 3 times (at least)  the time it took to genete's comp? :)
23:59 < pixelgeek> And it doesn't even look as good.  :(
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