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04:59 < nikitakit> Hello Zelgadis!
04:59 < Zelgadis> Hey, nikitakit!
05:00 < Zelgadis> Writing answer to forum right now
05:00 < Zelgadis> ^___^
05:00 < nikitakit> Yea, I noticed
05:03 < Zelgadis> nikitakit: http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=443&p=2673#p2673
05:04 < nikitakit> Thank you
05:04 < Zelgadis> I glad you finally get Linux and were able to fetch git repo. ^_^
05:04 < Zelgadis> *got
05:04 < nikitakit> :)
05:05 < Zelgadis> Sorry, still didn't reviewed "Goverment" part. 
05:05 < nikitakit> Oh, no worries
05:05 < nikitakit> The sad thing is that I'm using a different machine right now... but that's only for a little while
05:08 < Zelgadis> Well, I always thought what feedback is important for collaborative translation things. ~_^
05:08 < Zelgadis> As well as for other collaborative things. XD
05:09 < nikitakit> Feedback is always nice
05:43 < nikitakit> Oh, I have a question...
05:47 < Zelgadis> ^__^
05:49 < nikitakit> About the katana...
05:49 < nikitakit> would tracing it prove inconsistent with the 3d model?
05:49 < Zelgadis> Yes?
05:50  * AkhIL thinks drawing by hand much easer then vector graphics
05:51 < Zelgadis> nikitakit: Hmmm... not understood. Could you clarify a bit?
05:51 < nikitakit> If the 3d model is used in some scenes, and a 2d in others
05:51 < nikitakit> that could potentially cause consistency problems
05:52 < nikitakit> Or am I misunderstanding the purpose of the blender files?
05:52 < Zelgadis> No you are understood it right.
05:53 < Zelgadis> But difference between traced katana and 3D shouldn't be significant.
05:54 < nikitakit> OK
06:02 < nikitakit> Zelgadis: how is the demo coming along as of now? I seem to remember that all the past videos are from 2008
06:09 < nikitakit> Got to go; I'll read the logs if you answer
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06:15 < Zelgadis> nikitakit: I plan to post project status expressed in percents in nearest time. Also you could get current snapshot of demo by fetching latest updates from git repository and executing "make" in the repository dir. Rendered .mpg file will go into "render" directory.
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08:09 < genete> morning!
08:14 < Zelgadis> Morning, genete!
08:14 < genete> hi Zelgadis 
08:14 < genete> I told you =)
08:15 < genete> I'm the number one in messing up wikis ;)
08:15 < Zelgadis> It's ok, same happens when I trying to insert thumbnail to that file. No worries!
08:16 < Zelgadis> ^___^
08:16 < genete> your faster computer how many cores have?
08:16 < Zelgadis> 2
08:16 < genete> I'm experimenting a bug with the latest svn releases
08:17 < genete> regarding to canvas refresh, you know
08:17 < genete> so be ware on update
08:17 < Zelgadis> ah! new package? No problem!
08:17 < genete> It is very weird. dooglus built the latest version in my pc (debug mode) and the bug dissapeared
08:18 < genete> but if I build it without debug mode it still there
08:19 < Zelgadis> Strange...
08:19 < genete> I'm asking him to rebuild without debug mode to see what's happening. But without debug mode... how can he see what's happening?
08:21 < genete> As Gerco mentioned in the bug thread, it seems that the tile render generates several instances in parallel and it seems that one of them gets zombie (so it never return) so the others are not launched or... oh I have not idea!
08:21 < Zelgadis> Have you did "make clean" stuff?
08:22 < genete> when I rebuild I usually delete all the source folders and start from scratch. 
08:22 < Zelgadis> sane
08:23 < genete> can you make a binary of the latest release in a different computer than the one you have for production and see if the bug still there? Use the standard build instructions
08:23 < genete> in a different computer or a different binary location
08:24 < genete> to reproduce the bug just open examples/eye.sifz, make the window bigger, zoom to fit the window (to trigger the tile render) and press in the JMP to any of the further keyframes. 
08:25 < genete> the navigator updates, the main window never. It still saying "Rendering..."
08:25 < Zelgadis> I could make a package for the latest SVN... Packages are easy to switch from version to version.
08:29 < Zelgadis> Yes the bug is here
08:29 < Zelgadis> But it only happens once
08:29 < genete> I'm worry about the bug for two reasons: if it is fully confirmed it makes studio pretty unusable. If it is me the only one that suffers it, then buaaaah aaah!
08:29 < genete> oh
08:29 < genete> only one  time?
08:29 < genete> it happens one by two in my case
08:30 < genete> one time it responses the next noesn't
08:30 < genete> doesn't
08:31 < Zelgadis> And it's not updated navigator window too...
08:32 < Zelgadis> But I can't reproduce it again...
08:33 < genete> which revision are you using?
08:33 < Zelgadis> 2316
08:33 < Zelgadis> Can't reproduce it! Restarting synfig won't helping...
08:34 < genete> can I install that package in my pc without broke the local build?
08:34 < genete> I have the svn instlled at /usr/local
08:35 < Zelgadis> Yes, you can. Package not touches /usr/local
08:36 < Zelgadis> I'm unable to reproduce this bug
08:36 < genete> I'll install it once I arrive home. Is it the package available in the forum?
08:37 < Zelgadis> I suspect the first time I thought what bug is there was because I clicked on the keyframe what is identical to previous.
08:38 < genete> If you have the oportunity, please try the same witht he latest revision
08:39 < Zelgadis> Yes they are on the forum: http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=341
08:39 < Zelgadis> OK
08:40 < genete> the only way I've found to make the canvas refresh is to press the refresh button (and sometimes it doesn't) or move the time cursor. 
08:40 < genete> use the JMP or simply clicking in the timeline in other position doesn't refresh the main window (but the ducks yes)
08:41 < genete> it is very hard to work on that conditions :(
08:41 < Zelgadis> Yes
08:42 < Zelgadis> Building latest version right now
08:42 < genete> thanks!
09:29 < genete> how's the build going?
10:06 < Zelgadis> slow
10:07 < Zelgadis> Because I'm building i386 and x86_64 in parallel at the same time.
10:23 < genete> did you niced it?
10:23 < Zelgadis> no
10:24 < Zelgadis> It's so slow because it's rebuilding dependent libraries too
10:25 < genete> I meant the nice thing to let you continue working without any delay due to the background building proccess
10:25 < Zelgadis> ah
10:26 < Zelgadis> x86_64 done
10:26 < genete> nice -19 set it to lowest priority. 
10:26 < Zelgadis> I suppose you need .deb one?
10:26 < genete> no
10:26 < genete> just test it by your self
10:26 < Zelgadis> ok
10:27 < genete> maybe you should wait the 32 bit to finish
10:31 < Zelgadis> genete: SVN2352 - bug is here. Confirmed many times right now.
10:31 < Zelgadis> reproduced almost every one of two clicks on JMP
10:32 < genete> ok
10:32 < genete> so, what's the revision that doesn't have the trouble?
10:36 < genete> 2316, ok
10:41 < genete> anyother one can try to reproduce the bug?
10:44 < Zelgadis> 2316, yes
10:44 < Zelgadis> any other revision?
10:45 < genete> well, if you want to build (2352+2316)/2 it would help on localize the bug :)
10:45 < genete> 2334
10:46 < Zelgadis> genete: I could do it
10:46 < Zelgadis> I'll put it in the "for ... do ... done" loop
10:46 < Zelgadis> Don't know how much time it will take
10:46 < Zelgadis> though
10:47 < genete> do all the revisions?!
10:47 < genete> no no 
10:47 < genete> it is better to cut by halfs
10:47 < genete> just doing 2334 will help a lot
10:47 < Zelgadis> It will be faster, because I will build only etl/core/studio and only 64bit
10:48 < genete> because there are not so much suspicious commits between 2316 and 2352
10:52 < Zelgadis> I had to go now. So I leave this for now before I return: for i in `seq 2317 2351`; do ./synfigstudio-build.sh update $i; done
10:53 < genete> woud they have different binaries file names?
10:53 < genete> I guess so :)
10:53 < Zelgadis> yes
10:53 < genete> ok, good luck
10:53 < Zelgadis> lot of .rpm & .deb packages ^_^
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12:39 < genete> Zelgadis: any idea what could be the cause of that lack of refreshing in the main window?
12:43 < Zelgadis> genete: No idea, Better start guessing after we catch the culprit revision. ^__^
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13:24 < nikitakit> Hello
13:24 < genete> hi nikitakit 
13:24 < nikitakit> hey
13:25 < nikitakit> I just want to say that I've stumbled across unrefreshed canvases several times
13:25 < genete> which version are you using?
13:26 < nikitakit> That was a random SVN snapshot. (It's on a different computer, can't check right now)
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13:56 < prokoudine> Zelgadis: is nikitakit one othe Morevna project guys?
13:56 < Zelgadis> genete: What do you mean?
13:57 < Zelgadis> He is working on tacing and trnslating screenplay into English.
14:01 < genete> "13:56 Zelgadis genete: What do you mean? " when did I mean?
14:02 < Zelgadis> ah, genete, sorry. It was prokoudine.
14:03 < Zelgadis> prokoudine: what do you mean by "to be Morevna project guy"?
14:03 < prokoudine> one of your team
14:21 < Zelgadis> prokoudine: I don't know how to anwser this. We don't have solid team yet. People come, some stay, some go. Nikitakit is contacted me at the end of February and contributing since then.
14:21 < prokoudine> I see
14:24 < genete> like synfig team ;)
14:26 < Zelgadis> Yes. But I have a few people, who... I don't know how to say that... I not sure what they will not leave... But... They can't disappear all of sudden. I could go and kick them to work at any time of... ahem... week. ^_^
14:29 < genete> oh well, in synfig we have dictator... cough* cough*. Is there any in your team? cough*, cough*, cough*,... (what a cold!)
14:32 < Zelgadis> cough*, cough*, cough* ^___^
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15:29 < Near> Hi
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15:36 < Zelgadis> genete: the bug is between 2317 and 2334
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15:38 < Lindarron> Hi Zelggadis
15:38 < Zelgadis> Hi, Lindarron ^_^
15:38 < Lindarron> oops
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15:40 < Zelgadis> ah
15:41 < near> What, ah?
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15:43 < genete> Zelgadis: thanks for take time on that. I'm just arrived home
15:44 < near> Hi, genete^__^
15:44 < genete> hi near: how is English going? ;)
15:44 < Zelgadis> genete: The bug was introduced in SVN2326
15:44 < near> ^___^
15:45 < near> good
15:45 < genete> Zelgadis: the wip from pabs?
15:45 < near> today write esse trip in Australia
15:46 < Zelgadis> near: "Today I'm writing essay about a trip to Australia"
15:47 < near> ^___^
15:47 < Zelgadis> genete: I just know the revision number
15:47 < Zelgadis> genete: Could send you a .deb packages of 2326 and 2325 so you could compare by yourself
15:48 < genete> I prefer to build it from my self. Also dooglus is doing that on my pc
15:48 < Zelgadis> OK
15:48 < genete> meanwhile I eat something =)
15:48 < Zelgadis> Eating time here too
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16:14 < djedai> What  you do genete?
16:14 < genete> I'm sitting on a chair
16:14 < djedai> ^___^
16:14 < djedai> I am too
16:16 < genete> djedai: that's a very generic question: "What do you do genete?" Remember that a 'do' is needed for the question and other for the phrase itself
16:18 < djedai> Ok
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16:40 < genete> hi Light_linux: how's your English going?
16:40 < Light_linux> ^____^ excellent
16:41 < genete> and what happened to djedai?
16:41 < Light_linux> I install good dictionary
16:41 < genete> "I installed a good dictionary"
16:42 < Light_linux> Ok
16:42 < Zelgadis> lol
16:42 < Light_linux> bad dictionary
16:43 < genete> Zelgadis: we have confirmed the bug in r2326 
16:43 < genete> dooglus is looking to it no (I think)
16:44 < Zelgadis> genete: Cool!
16:44 < genete> yes, really, because work on that conditions is awful! >:o
16:45 < genete> ttyl
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23:17 < CIA-47> synfig: genete * r2353 /synfig-studio/trunk/src/gtkmm/workarea.cpp: Fix bug #2652974. Reverts revision r2326 to previous state.
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