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10:38 < wormsxulla> ppppprrrrroooookkkkkooooouuuuudddddiiiiinnnnneeeee!!!!!!!!!!
10:38 < wormsxulla> he is everywhere
10:41 < wormsxulla> i came across http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=425&p=2501&hilit=svg&sid=97c825058450313f7a4468fde0ad4577#p2501 and i was wondering, is the svg import already available somewhere in synfig?
10:56 < rore> AFAIK, yes, but I never tested it. And at the moment, it's still using some external program to convert svg to sif. (Well, I hope I'm not saying wrong things, I don't follow the development close enough)
10:56 < wormsxulla> the glib mentioned in the thread?
10:56 < wormsxulla> and hello
10:57 < rore> the thread is about export, you were asking about import :) (and hello too)
10:57 < wormsxulla> oops, right :)
10:57 < wormsxulla> yes, import is my concern
10:58 < wormsxulla> inkscape --> synfig is what i'd like to do
10:58 < rore> pixelbot: svg inkscape import whatever triggers your anwser 
10:58 < AkhIL|clone> he-he. synfig is awfull for _drawing_ something
10:59 < rore> bah, stupid bot :) 
10:59 < wormsxulla> :)
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11:00 < wormsxulla> if i already have gtk installed on windows, do i need to download it and install it to install synfig?
11:00 < rore> http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=30 hmm... was it that thread? I remember something else about svg...
11:01 < wormsxulla> i've found another thread, just hang on a minute
11:01 < rore> http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=340&hilit=svg 
11:01 < rore> I think..
11:03 < wormsxulla> yes
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11:06 < genete> import SVG 
11:06 < pixelbot> http://synfig.org/Svg2synfig or http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11
11:06 < genete> rore: you just have to say the magic words ;)
11:07  * wormsxulla lights a candle and goes to read pixelbot's urls
11:08 < rore> genete: bahhh.... I told them! But not in the right order. *sigh* :) 
11:08 < wormsxulla> ah, xslt
11:08 < rore> pixelbot: load AI - so you won't be that dumb 
11:08 < wormsxulla> i knew it was complicated :p 
11:08 < rore> hehe :) 
11:09  * rore kicks pixelbot 
11:09 < pixelbot> Ow!
11:10 < wormsxulla> guys, do not abuse bots while i'm here!
11:12 < genete> pixelbot: sudo make wormsxulla a coffee!
11:12 < pixelbot> Coming right up!
11:12 < wormsxulla> cool, thank you!
11:12 < genete> !quote
11:12 < pixelbot> Synfig: Save early, save often!
11:12  * genete huges pixelbot 
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11:13 < wormsxulla> *pixel*bot? there is no *vector*bot?
11:14 < wormsxulla> (by the way, the synfig forums don't have a favicon)
11:15 < genete> pixelbot's owner is pixelgeek (a synfig from US who is sleeping now)
11:15 < wormsxulla> (it would be nice to have one)
11:15 < wormsxulla> genete: ah, i understand
11:15 < genete> s/synfig/synfig user
11:28 < wormsxulla> so, if i already have gtk installed, do i need it another time for installing synfig on windows?
11:28 < genete> did you already insalled gtkmm?
11:29 < wormsxulla> no
11:29 < genete> install it first
11:29 < wormsxulla> ok
11:29 < genete> I mean, too
11:29 < wormsxulla> ok :)
11:29 < genete> windows install pixelbot
11:29 < genete> Hmm
11:30 < genete> how to install synfig in windows
11:30  * genete kicks pixelbot
11:30 < pixelbot> Ow!
11:31 < wormsxulla> pixelbot: install wndows
11:31  * wormsxulla tries!
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11:31 < genete> hi Zelgadis 
11:31 < Zelgadis> Hi, genete!
11:32 < genete> wormsxulla: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrDqiRI7fwk
11:32 < genete> check that first, wormsxulla 
11:32 < wormsxulla> that's the pixelgeek's video? i've watched it already :)
11:33 < genete> Zelgadis: I don't like that eyebrow shapes :-/
11:33 < genete> wormsxulla: so follow it strictly :)
11:33 < wormsxulla> i just would like to avoid having several gtk versions installed, if possible (i have several in several inkscape installations)
11:34 < genete> then just check what's the current version you have and the one granted it works with Synfig. If everything is ok then good, if not then don't complain :)
11:34 < pixelbot> The current release of Synfig is 0.61.09.
11:35 < wormsxulla> ahahah
11:35 < wormsxulla> thank you, pixelbot 
11:35 < Zelgadis> genete: that's pitty ^_^
11:35 < genete> pixelbot: your are out of context as usual :P
11:35 < wormsxulla> he is young, maybe
11:36 < genete> Zelgadis: from my point of view, I see some contradictions in Ivan's face and body development
11:37 < genete> Zelgadis: he looks like a 15 years old guy (body and face shape) but you want him to be more adult (eyebrows and angry expresions).
11:38 < genete> Zelgadis: but hey, that's just my opinion! :)
11:40 < Zelgadis> genete: yep. Thanks, genete! But I do like his "reworked" look. I should finish his layout.
11:41 < genete> should scene 01 be reworked too according to the new character layout?
11:43 < Zelgadis> yes
12:09 < genete> yep, better finish the definitive layout instead of continue sketching more scenes. 
12:10 < genete> Zelgadis: are you happy with Morevna's face (shape and expressions) in scene 22?
12:10 < Zelgadis> Yes! But sorry, I'm still not reviewed the sources
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12:14 < genete> no no problem, It differs a bit from the basic layout, specially the jaw shape and the oval face/cranium. That was the reason of the question.
12:35 < Zelgadis> Yes, I've noticed jaw shape difference and little difference in the eyes. It could be fixed later.
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15:53 < CIA-47> MorevnaProject: Konstantin Dmitriev master * r06f1c9aee1e8 demo/21/ (21-composition.sif shading-01.jpg shading-02.jpg): 21: Shading drafts added.
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15:59 < wormsxulla> hi again. so, reading thr website, i'm looking for http://synfig.org/New_Canvas_Dialog but i can't find this dialog. i do find "synfig studio setup", is that it?
16:01 < Zelgadis> genete: I have examined the 22's sources. You did impressive intricate work on hairs. Something has to be fixed in 22 but I plan to do that after you finish with hair movement. ^.^
16:02 < Zelgadis> wormsxulla: Edit - Properties
16:03 < wormsxulla> Zelgadis: i feel like an idiot, i should have read to the bottom of the page. thank you
16:03 < Zelgadis> wormsxulla: np
16:03 < wormsxulla> also, do you have someone for french localization, or do you need someone?
16:04 < wormsxulla> i can volunteer if needed
16:06 < Zelgadis> wormsxulla: IIRC UI is translated to French by rore. But we always appreciate wiki translation.
16:09 < Zelgadis> genete: the new Ivan's layout is already settled, I just need to arrange it and publish.
16:09 < wormsxulla> mmmh, must be a gtk problem then, cos i have some menu items in french - my os is in french, and others in english
16:10 < Zelgadis> genete: I promise what Ivan's look will not change in the future anymore. ^___^
16:10 < Zelgadis> wormsxulla: Which version of SynfigStudio?
16:11 < wormsxulla> 0.61.09 on windows xp
16:12 < Zelgadis> strange. Everything is in french here on linux.
16:12 < wormsxulla> i don't even remember choosing a language for synfig (but installation was fast)
16:13 < wormsxulla> Zelgadis: gtk prefers linux :p
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16:18 < wormsxulla> http://www.petaimg.com/u63/599screenshot_synfig.png
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16:47 < rore> maybe XP thinks you need some english lessons and decided to run synfig in english ^^ 
16:54 < wormsxulla> :)
16:55 < wormsxulla> mebbe!
16:59 < rore> I have no idea how translation is supposed to work on Windows. Does it shout some error message if you start it with "LANG=fr synfigstudio" from a console?
17:00 < wormsxulla> i suspect you need some sort of bat file like in inkscape
17:02 < wormsxulla> it looks like the "standard" menu items (new, file, save, quit...) are in the OS language, the rest is in english
17:02 < rore> Maybe. It's strange that nobody reported that problem before. Maybe all of our Windows users and from an english-speaking country.
17:02 < wormsxulla> again, it's my burden to report bugs :p
17:03 < rore> Yeah, they are automatically translated via GTK+ I think. So only the translation files from synfig don't work, hmf
17:04 < rore> how did you installed synfig? Compilation and all? Or binary? (I don't remember if there's windows binaries)
17:04 < wormsxulla> so, i need to find the command line option to start, and try what you said (not that i want synfig in french, i prefer it in english)
17:04 < rore> (I prefer it in english too, just because I'm not totally satisfied with my translation :p )
17:05 < wormsxulla> i used the download page and the 4 links for windows, as instructed by pixelgeek's video
17:05 < wormsxulla> i want synfig for my 10yo nephew who is half-french half-german and speaks a bit of english, too :)
17:07 < rore> hm ok, the things for windows are exe (I'm too lazy to watch the video, however)... so it's the fault of the one who made the exe, if there's no translation. (I love putting the fault on someone else :] )
17:07 < wormsxulla> http://synfig.org/Download from this page
17:07 < wormsxulla> ahaha
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17:08 < wormsxulla> hey, you're female?
17:09 < wormsxulla> (i did a /whois)
17:09 < rore> hm... I wonder if synfig is suited for a 10yo kid. It looks a bit complex. (Well, I have no idea what are the capacities of a 10 year old kid :D)
17:09 < rore> wormsxulla: yeah, the only one on that project *laugh* 
17:10 < wormsxulla> he does great with inkscape, and wants to do animation
17:10 < wormsxulla> rore: i'm glad to learn that, they are so few females in open source projects
17:11 < rore> oh... Somehow, I imagined that 10yo = nothing more complex than Tuxpaint :D (maybe I need to go to a primary school, see what 10yo kids are like, I can't remember XD)
17:11 < wormsxulla> you should!
17:12 < wormsxulla> he complained about his school software being lousy :p
17:12 < rore> 10yo is ... what... CM1? 
17:12 < wormsxulla> yes
17:12 < rore> ok :)
17:13 < rore> He's a future geek? :)
17:13 < wormsxulla> i hope he will go on learning as quickly as he does now
17:20 < wormsxulla> http://synfig.org/Svg2synfig#svg2synfig.xsl
17:20 < wormsxulla> i followed the instructions in part 1 of this, now when i click in the windows explorer on a svg file, it crashes the explorer :)
17:21 < wormsxulla> i don't think this is intended
17:22 < rore> windows explorer? Huuu... report bug to windows? ^^
17:22 < wormsxulla> that's strange really
17:25 < wormsxulla> never mind, it's one file which crashes it, not all
17:25  * wormsxulla sighs in relief
17:30 < rore> (I should remember this for the next time I use windows. I have a magic gift with that OS. Every time I use it I manage to froze it / break something / get a blue screen (on the older versions)/ etc. ) 
17:31 < wormsxulla> really? never had any problem, honestly (with win2k or even xp). i suspect this particular file (an svg made with inkscape) is buggy, i'm investigating
17:32 < wormsxulla> so which os is yours?
17:33 < rore> linux debian 
17:34 < rore> and with XP, well, the 1st day I installed it on my father computer, I make it froze. (It was still rather "new", and was said not to crash, or have blue screens, or froze... Well, that was false, at least for that last one)
17:36 < rore> (the simple way to make it freeze was: log with one account, realise you wanted to log with another account, so "unlog" while it's still loading the desktop and all. Blam, freeze. No way to get it to work again expect a hard reboot. Maybe it was corrected in one of the SP)
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17:44 < wormsxulla> what is the difference between the package "synfig" and "synfig studio". one is "core", but what does it mean? 
17:45 < wormsxulla> (i'm installing on the eee pc, but the version in my repository for xubuntu gutsy is 0.61.06-2 and 0.61.06-1 respectively)
18:03 < rore> synfig-core is just the renderer. No user interface.
18:04 < wormsxulla> ah, ok
18:05 < wormsxulla> there is no backport of 0.61.09 to gutsy, is there? (i'm currently staring at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synfig/ )
18:06 < wormsxulla> you see, this is why i don't like linux OSs :)
18:23 < rore> no, this is why you don't like ubuntu :p No idea about their backports. 
18:24 < rore> (and who needs a backport when you can compile? :D Oh the fun.... :D. Ok, maybe i'm just weird)
18:25 < wormsxulla> :) nope, you're just having a different need and background
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19:09 < pixelgeek> wormsxulla: The Windows scripts haven't been changed since before translations went in.  
19:09 < pixelgeek> I have no idea if they work or not.  Or what GTK is looking for to make it work.  
19:10 < pixelgeek> It wouldn't surprise me if there was a file missing.  
19:10 < pixelgeek> moin all, BTW
19:22 < wormsxulla> hey pixelgeek!
19:23 < pixelgeek> hey
19:24 < pixelgeek> If you can figure out what the GTK needs to show the translation, we can try and enable it?
19:24 < pixelgeek> (I work in English)
19:25 < wormsxulla> so... we're all foreigners using the english version? :)
19:25 < wormsxulla> i do need the french for the kiddie, though, so, let's see
19:27 < wormsxulla> i should look for a locale or something, i suppose?
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19:27 < pixelgeek> Ma francais, ce n'est pas tres bien.
19:27 < pixelgeek> QED
19:28 < pixelgeek> wormsxulla: I don't know what windows triggers on, or what GTK triggers on for that matter....
19:28 < wormsxulla> :)
19:29 < wormsxulla> what's the command to start synfig from the command line? normally?
19:29 < pixelgeek> The gui?  Or the command line renderer?
19:30 < wormsxulla> the gui
19:30 < pixelgeek> "C:\Program Files\synfig\bin\synfigstudio.exe"
19:30 < wormsxulla> hmmm
19:33 < pixelgeek> I don't know that there are any command line options for studio.
19:34 < pixelgeek> Only for synfig renderer - http://www.synfig.org/Synfig_Core_options
19:34 < pixelgeek> I suspect that there is an environment variable somewhere...
19:45 < pixelgeek> Is it as simple as copying the fr.po file into the synfig dir?
19:47 < wormsxulla> i could try @set LANG=fr_FR in a bat file if the necessary file exists
19:47  * wormsxulla goes to try this
19:48 < wormsxulla> i don't see any file in the synfig dir, it's all a big exe :)
19:48 < pixelgeek> I was looking at the Inkscape page on translation.  
19:49 < pixelgeek> It talks about the po file, but I don't know if that's specific for Linux, or would work with GTK  under windows too.
19:49 < wormsxulla> heh, so the website is up again?
19:49 < wormsxulla> it's for gtk, i used po files to translate something, it also works on windows
19:49 < pixelgeek> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Translation_information
19:50 < pixelgeek> So rore did provide a fr.po
19:50 < pixelgeek> but it's not distributed as part of the Windows installation.
19:50 < pixelgeek> If you can tell me where it needs to go, I can update the windows installer to include it.
19:50 < pixelgeek> (I hope)
19:52 < wormsxulla> in inkscape there is a /locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/inkscape.mo file, i'm still looking for the po
19:53 < wormsxulla> that's under the main /inkscape folder
19:54 < wormsxulla> no .po files currently in inkscape
19:55 < pixelgeek> Hmmm..  I wonder how a .mo file differs from a po file
19:55 < wormsxulla> i think maybe .po is raw and .mo is compiled, or something?
19:56 < pixelgeek> I think you're right  PO (Portable Object) files 
19:57 < pixelgeek> The second step in the localization process is that the translator translates all the messages from the POT file into the target language, and saves both English and translated messages in a PO file. 
19:57 < pixelgeek> MO (Machine Object) files 
19:57 < pixelgeek> The final step in the localization process is that the PO file is run through a program that turns it into an optimized machine-readable binary file (MO file). Compiling the translations to machine code makes the localized program much faster in retrieving the translations while it is running. 
20:07 < pixelgeek> Looks like it might be worthwhile checking to see if you can 
20:07 < pixelgeek> convert the fr.po to fr.mo, then
20:08 < pixelgeek> drop it in a dir you create called ....synfig/languages/fr/LC_MESSAGES/fr.mo
20:08 < wormsxulla> can you send me the .po file then?
20:08 < pixelgeek> But I haven't tried this, and have no clue if what I'm telling you is even valid !
20:08 < pixelgeek> Should be available from the SVN server
20:08 < wormsxulla> meh, we can try
20:09 < pixelgeek> rore - are you still awake?  Can you send it to wormsxulla?
20:09 < pixelgeek> (me away from my home PC)
20:09 < rore> I have gmo files, no mo... *scratches head*
20:10 < pixelgeek> Looks like po files can be used to generate mo files
20:10 < pixelgeek> using poedit for example
20:10 < wormsxulla> yes, poedit, that's the software i used in the past
20:13  * pixelgeek off to lunch
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20:59 < wormsxulla> alright, i have a fr.mo file which i have put in /share/locale/fr/ but of course it doesn't change the situation
21:00 < wormsxulla> is there a way to keep the windows console opened after i launch synfigstudio.exe and it fails after a bunch of text appears in the console. then the console closes
21:02 < rore> isn't there a "execute command" entry somewhere in the xp start menu? IIRC, you should type "cmd" there, to launch the console. 
21:02 < rore> and then type synfigstudio in the console, and it should remain open
21:03 < wormsxulla> yes, but when i type synfigstudio in the console, it opens *another* console, and that's the one i want to keep open
21:03 < wormsxulla> it remains open if everything is ok, not if synfigstudio fails (because of my bat file)
21:03 < rore> ah... I thought it would use the existing console. In general, that's what programs do. Synfig is weird ... 
21:04 < wormsxulla> nope, it opens another (its own console)
21:06 < wormsxulla> i've tried to redirect the output with >synfig.log but it creates a file of 0 size, because I AM IN THE WRONG CONSOLE :p
21:06 < wormsxulla> this is fun!
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22:01 < pixelgeek> wormsxulla: synfig console should remain open as long as studio is running...
22:02 < pixelgeek> is your share/locale dir under GTK?
22:02 < wormsxulla> i see it when i don't tamper with my bat file which tries to fiddle with SET 
22:02 < pixelgeek> Can you try under synfig/languages/fr/LC_MESSAGES/fr.mo ?
22:03 < wormsxulla> pixelgeek: nope, it's under /synfig/share/locale/fr currently
22:03 < wormsxulla> yes, i'll try
22:03 < pixelgeek> You should be able to just run cmd, then 
22:03 < pixelgeek> "C:\Program Files\synfig\bin\synfigstudio.exe"
22:04 < pixelgeek> I've found a couple of opensource programs that use gtk and they seem to use /languages/fr/LC_MESSAGES/fr.mo under the main dir of teh application
22:05 < wormsxulla> no change :-(
22:05 < pixelgeek> I don't know if that's a default location that gettext uses, or if it's coded internally, but it seemed like a fair bet to try 
22:05 < pixelgeek> OK,
22:05 < pixelgeek> back to the drawing board.  
22:05 < wormsxulla> i suppose that's because the program is an exe, so it's not looking for anything else
22:05 < pixelgeek> I'll do some more investigation on the web.
22:05 < pixelgeek> Well,
22:05 < wormsxulla> no worries, and thanks for your help anyway (and rore too)
22:06 < pixelgeek>  synfigstudio relies on other dll files
22:06 < pixelgeek> And the translation is handled by gtk, anyway...  
22:06 < wormsxulla> yes
22:12 < pixelgeek> This could require some guesswork....  http://osdir.com/ml/video.gimp.windows.devel/2002-11/msg00022.html
22:14 < wormsxulla> i''ll rename the file fr_FR.mo and see
22:16 < wormsxulla> but even if we had the right path and the right name, how would we tell synfig to use _this_ particular locale?
22:17 < pixelgeek> yes - I just found a posting that implies that the windows LANG variable needs to be tested.  
22:17 < pixelgeek> If that's the case it's not going to work for you. 
22:18 < wormsxulla> well, my brilliant idea of a bat file with @start LANG=fr_FR didn't work so far (when i launch synfigstudio.exe from the command line, i get a very long list of errors, with or without the bat file)
22:19 < wormsxulla> (and the console window closes)
22:20 < wormsxulla> pixelgeek: don't worry, really, there is no emergency (but it sure would be nice to have localization working for the foreigners out there)
22:20 < pixelgeek> I understand.  
22:20 < pixelgeek> It's not something I've really looked at before. 
22:20 < wormsxulla> :) 
22:21 < pixelgeek> Like I said - the windows build script existed before synfig was translated.  
22:21 < wormsxulla> do you get the same long list of errors when you type synfigstudio.exe from inside a console?
22:21 < pixelgeek> I'm not really surprised it doesn't work.
22:21 < pixelgeek> 'long list' - no.  There are some....  
22:22 < pixelgeek> Want to take a screen shot?
22:22 < wormsxulla> i wish i could, but it goes to fast :-(
22:22 < wormsxulla> let me try
22:24 < wormsxulla> also, it does NOT open synfig at all, when from the command line
22:25 < pixelgeek> ah...  
22:25 < pixelgeek> I'm sorry 
22:25 < wormsxulla> i have a screenshot!
22:26 < wormsxulla> no problem :) i will survive!
22:26 < pixelgeek>  the command I gave you was cut & pasted from the menu shortcut
22:26 < pixelgeek> it does need to run from the synfig dir.
22:27 < pixelgeek> If you start from the synfig dir
22:28 < pixelgeek> and do bin\synfigstudio.exe  
22:28 < pixelgeek> it does start.
22:28 < pixelgeek> With all the messages because it can't find the link to the icons
22:29 < wormsxulla> not here, i'll give you the screenshot in a minute
22:30 < wormsxulla> http://www.petaimg.com/u331/717synfigstudio_errors.png
22:30 < wormsxulla> the long list seems to be always the same message about the missing icon, indeed, except the last one
22:31 < pixelgeek> Well, I don't know why it's not running for you, but the errors that are listed are due to the fact that it fails to find every icon :)
22:31 < wormsxulla> yep
22:31 < wormsxulla> hmmm
22:31 < wormsxulla> so i'm *special*
22:31 < wormsxulla> :)
22:32 < pixelgeek> I don't know why it works from the start menu but not from the command line.  Bizarre.
22:32 < pixelgeek> And why it can't find the icons....
22:32 < pixelgeek> Hmmm.....  
22:32 < pixelgeek> You _ARE_ special
22:32 < wormsxulla> they are there, under /pixmaps or something
22:33 < pixelgeek> ;D
22:33 < pixelgeek> yes
22:34 < wormsxulla> g_path_is_absolute...?
22:37 < pixelgeek> http://mibbit.com/up/8kiNRcvm.png 
22:37 < pixelgeek> I have no idea.
22:37 < wormsxulla> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/games-list/2007-June/msg00011.html
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22:38 < wormsxulla> oh, the screenshot is what you get from the command line?
22:38 < pixelgeek> ys
22:38 < pixelgeek> yes
22:38 < wormsxulla> interesting
22:39 < pixelgeek> I think it's rather a red herring - irrelevant to the problem of not finding the .mo files.
22:39 < pixelgeek> I think there's some more digging to do there.  
22:39 < wormsxulla> i do think the two things are not related
22:40 < pixelgeek> I'll do some more digging - maybe tag you another day when I have something else for you to try.  
22:40 < pixelgeek> rore's no fun, she doesn't run XP.  
22:40 < wormsxulla> ahahah
22:41 < wormsxulla> i could also try on win2k if you wish (if it's supported)
22:41 < pixelgeek> I don't expect it would be any different.  
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22:42  * rore throws a fat penguin at pixelgeek 
22:43 < wormsxulla> this message says 'on windows it is a problem because the data files should be relative to the executable'. so they should be in a subfolder of /bin (maybe)
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22:44 < rore> also, I forgot to say that the " bat file with @start LANG=fr_FR " was useless because as some parts of the menu were already translated automaticaly, it meant that synfig was started in the right language. (I thought about it just after suggesting the LANG=fr stuff, but for some reason I forgot to write it... oops)
22:44 < wormsxulla> :)
22:44 < rore> could have saved you some time :/
22:45 < wormsxulla> you have a point
22:46 < wormsxulla> ahahah, i am a genius!
22:47 < wormsxulla> i created /share/pixmaps under /bin and now it starts!
22:47 < wormsxulla> without the icons, like for pixelgeek
22:47 < wormsxulla> well, i'm not a genius, but i'm glad this works :)
22:54 < pixelgeek> How did you install it without getting that dir?  
22:54 < pixelgeek> !
22:55 < wormsxulla> i did get it, but under /synfig/share/pixmaps, not under /bin/share/pixmaps
22:55 < pixelgeek> ah,,
22:56 < pixelgeek> I'd stick to starting it from the menu shortcut if I were you ;)
22:56 < wormsxulla> ;)
22:58 < wormsxulla> in fact, the UI is in french but the gtk dialogs are in english, so it means gtk itself has to be instructed to start in french (stupid gtk!)
23:08 < pixelgeek> It looks like GTK is translating the icons it owns.  
23:09 < pixelgeek> It just doesn't know how to translate the synfig specific ones.  
23:09 < wormsxulla> yup
23:09 < pixelgeek> Which isn't surprising if we're not distributing the mo file. 
23:10 < wormsxulla> i always want the impossible!
23:10 < wormsxulla> ;)
23:12 < wormsxulla> out of curiosity, synfig doesn't create any user file - like err.. in "application data", at all?
23:14 < wormsxulla> except the /Synfig/tmp in Documents and Settings\user\Synfig 
23:16 < pixelgeek> just in Documents and Settings\user\Synfig 
23:22 < wormsxulla> amazing
23:24 -!- genete [n=carlos@79.108.35.234.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #synfig
23:24 < genete> hi there
23:25 < pixelgeek> hey genete 
23:25 < genete> hi pixelgeek
23:26 < wormsxulla> hey genete 
23:26 < pixelgeek> I'm finding out too much about translation.
23:26 < genete> heh wormsxulla
23:26 < genete> s/heh/hey
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23:35 < pixelgeek> pixelbot learn countdown 21 days to go...
23:35 < pixelbot> added to database...
23:35 < pixelgeek> countdown !
23:35 < pixelbot> 21 days to go...
23:37 < pixelgeek> genete: thanks for providing rore with the magic incantation for pixelbot's svg response this morning
23:37 < genete> :D I was lucky. I wasn't sure it would work ;)
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23:39 < pixelgeek> Well, I need to run some errands.  
23:39 < pixelgeek> May be see you later on tonight.... 
23:40 < pixelgeek> otherwise, g'night!
23:40 < genete> errands (cool, new word to me)
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23:45 < wormsxulla> genete: does your nick have anything to do with the animal "geneta" ?
23:46 < genete> no. And it is not "geneta" but "jineta" (in Spanish language)
23:46 < wormsxulla> :) yes, so you know them
23:48 < genete> genete comes from a confusion I had telling the Spanish word gente (people). The confusión came into joke the joke was repeated, etc. And finally the nick was born :)
23:49 < wormsxulla> ah, nice
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