--- Log opened Tue Jan 12 00:00:40 2010 00:01 -!- genete [n=carlos@84.122.50.143.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #synfig [] --- Log closed Tue Jan 12 00:13:04 2010 --- Log opened Tue Jan 12 00:25:11 2010 00:25 -!- dooglus_ [n=dooglus@unaffiliated/dooglus] has joined #synfig 00:25 -!- Irssi: #synfig: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 00:25 -!- Irssi: Join to #synfig was synced in 29 secs 02:21 < pixelgeek> 'night all 02:21 -!- pixelgeek [i=86868b4b@gateway/web/freenode/x-etzszoiuysjuatbz] has left #synfig [] 05:25 -!- Sepero [n=none@h-96-13-123-79.ip.alltel.net] has joined #synfig 05:43 -!- Seper [n=none@h-96-13-40-228.ip.alltel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:19 -!- krish [n=krish@122.183.18.122] has joined #synfig 07:59 -!- Kunalagon [n=Kunalago@pc3.telekom.yu] has joined #synfig 08:33 -!- genete [i=d90c1031@gateway/web/freenode/x-kuzdphhackjzfric] has joined #synfig 09:09 -!- genete [i=d90c1031@gateway/web/freenode/x-kuzdphhackjzfric] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 09:15 -!- Karl_Stiler [n=el_kallo@aktaia.intevation.org] has joined #synfig 09:18 -!- Netsplit verne.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: ebeth`, Sepero, CIA-52, stolf_ 09:20 -!- Sepero [n=none@h-96-13-123-79.ip.alltel.net] has joined #synfig 09:20 -!- stolf_ [i=chris@spy.byte.net.nz] has joined #synfig 09:20 -!- CIA-52 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #synfig 09:20 -!- ebeth` [i=bip@winfree.gag.com] has joined #synfig 09:26 -!- rylleman [n=david@c213-89-98-99.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #synfig 09:50 -!- klauwhamer [n=felixdhc@ipd50af072.speed.planet.nl] has joined #synfig 12:43 -!- krish [n=krish@122.183.18.122] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:45 -!- genete [i=d90c1031@gateway/web/freenode/x-erhtginwqjkjwjer] has joined #synfig 12:48 < genete> synfig users: what do you think on this? http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=4994#p4994 and this? http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=4995#p4995 13:22 < AkhIL> genete, nice 13:35 < genete> AkhIL: well, I did wait a more deep response to solve my doubts... ;) 15:02 -!- genete [i=d90c1031@gateway/web/freenode/x-erhtginwqjkjwjer] has quit ["Page closed"] 16:00 -!- Kunalagon [n=Kunalago@pc3.telekom.yu] has quit ["Leaving."] 16:05 < Sepero> genete: Recipe- create circle, Remove circle layer, Undo, Create a new circle. The Redo button will still be highlighted. 16:27 -!- rylleman [n=david@c213-89-98-99.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:45 -!- cmw72 [n=Miranda@www.docshp.com] has joined #synfig 16:51 -!- genete [n=carlos@84.122.50.143.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #synfig 16:52 < genete> Sepero: nice recipe, but what's wrong? I can redo the last deletion and it works as expected o_O 16:53 < Sepero> ok 16:54 < genete> catch you later... 16:54 -!- genete [n=carlos@84.122.50.143.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #synfig [] 16:54 < Sepero> genete, under Gimp and Inkscape and similar programs, as soon as a modification is made to the document, the Redo history is deleted. 17:25 -!- Sepero [n=none@h-96-13-123-79.ip.alltel.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 17:25 -!- Seper [n=none@h-98-134-59-17.ip.alltel.net] has joined #synfig 17:26 -!- Zelgadis [n=zelgadis@92.124.225.128] has joined #synfig 17:46 -!- Karl_Stiler [n=el_kallo@aktaia.intevation.org] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:34 -!- Zelgadis [n=zelgadis@92.124.225.128] has quit ["Bye!"] 22:02 -!- genete [n=carlos@84.122.50.143.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #synfig 22:03 < genete> hey Seper 22:03 < Seper> indeed 22:03 < genete> the thing is that synfig includes the undos as actions in the redo stack 22:03 < genete> others just jump back in to the undo stack 22:04 < genete> I think Synfig is more powerful 22:04 < genete> you can jump to any undo/redo place 22:04 < genete> and disable some intermediate actions by the checkbox 22:04 < genete> can you do that in Gimp or Inkscape ? ;) 22:05 < Seper> no 22:05 < genete> anyway I think that Synfig works the same as inkscape 22:06 < genete> I can follow your recipe in inkscape with same results 22:06 < genete> oh well 22:06 < genete> not the same 22:07 < Seper> It's um... akward? :) 22:08 < Seper> Definitely an interesting and potentially useful feature. 22:08 < genete> let's repeat the recipe 22:08 < genete> 1) create a circle 22:08 < genete> (one entry in the undo stack) 22:08 < genete> 2) delete the circle 22:08 < Seper> I just imagine it would confuse more ppl than it would help. 22:09 < genete> (one entry in the undo stack - delete) 22:09 < genete> (now comes the difference) 22:09 < genete> 3) create a new circle 22:09 < genete> **Inkscape cleans the redo stack 22:09 < genete> ** synfig doesn't clean the redo stack 22:10 < genete> in synfig redo stack are pushed down the stack and undo pushed up 22:10 < genete> it is a double stack LIFO 22:10 < genete> last in first out 22:11 < Seper> I gotcha 22:11 < genete> which is better? dunno 22:11 < genete> it is just different 22:12 < genete> I think that synfig is quite more powerful 22:13 < genete> you can recover a very old action in the stack (sometimes it is not possible and throws an error) 22:14 < Seper> I agree it is more powerful. I guess I'm just thinking that it might be best if it wasn't the default. 22:15 < genete> I haven't had any problem with undo and redo until you pointed it out ;) 22:18 < genete> see you later :) 22:18 -!- genete [n=carlos@84.122.50.143.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #synfig [] 22:18 < Seper> genete okie :) 22:35 -!- pixelgeek [i=86868b4b@gateway/web/freenode/x-zhwcetbnmvffezwu] has joined #synfig 22:45 -!- klauwhamer [n=felixdhc@ipd50af072.speed.planet.nl] has left #synfig [] --- Log closed Wed Jan 13 00:00:42 2010