--- Log opened Wed Mar 17 00:00:14 2010
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00:18 < pixelgeek> Yay - I can get online from work again!
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05:28 < Zelgadis> Hi!
05:28 < AkhIL> !iH
05:29 < Zelgadis> Someone, please tell Appleman1234 that it's best to remove ETL every time he tries to build synfig-core from different vendor (ebuild/source/sunrise)
05:29 < Zelgadis> Hi, AkhIL   ^__^
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06:08 < pi7xelgeek_ubu> what's the current version?
06:08 < pixelbot> The current release of Synfig is 0.61.09.
06:08 < pi7xelgeek_ubu> pixelbot, go away until you get it right!
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06:10 < pi7xelgeek_ubu> what's the current version?
06:10 < pixelbot> The current release of Synfig is 0.62.00.
06:10 < pi7xelgeek_ubu> much better!
06:11 < pi7xelgeek_ubu> Ha - maybe I should have just changed it to 0.63.00 to be ready for May?
06:11 < pi7xelgeek_ubu> Or 0.62.01 - whatever....
06:24 < pi7xelgeek_ubu> anyway, time for bed here.
06:25 < pi7xelgeek_ubu> good night all
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09:13 < genete> Zelgadis, tomorrow I have the workshop. Do you have any preference on which scene should I show to the students?
09:20 < genete> which scene from Morevna Project  of course ^___^''
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13:04 < Appleman1234> Hi
13:16 < Zelgadis> Hi!
13:18 < Zelgadis> genete: What is your plan about workshop? How do you plan to show the scene? As example, demonstration or with deep introspection?
13:18 < Zelgadis> Appleman1234: Did you succeed building synfig?
13:22 < Appleman1234> trying git now
13:22 < Appleman1234> but so the only progress I got was the build errors for ebuild and source to match
13:23 < Zelgadis> Appleman1234: Don't forget to remove ETL each time you try to build new synfig "flavor".
13:23 < Appleman1234> ?
13:23 < Zelgadis> because ETL is tied to synfig very closely
13:23 < Appleman1234> etl is installed seperately 
13:23 < Appleman1234> I only try to build synfig-core
13:23 < Appleman1234> ETL installed fine
13:24 < Zelgadis> That's bad
13:24 < Appleman1234> :S
13:24 < Zelgadis> Look.
13:24 < Zelgadis> ETL for one git revision will probably not work for synfig-core from another revision.
13:24 < Zelgadis> the revisions should be exactly the same.
13:25 < Appleman1234> they have been for all builds except git until now
13:27 < Zelgadis> wait a moment...
13:29 < Zelgadis> Appleman1234: Try to build with this script: http://zelgadis.profusehost.net/files/synfig/synfigstudio-build-new.sh
13:29 < Appleman1234> ?
13:29 < Zelgadis> How to use: cd into repo dir and run script from there.
13:30 < Zelgadis> your working dir should be the git repo dir
13:31 < Zelgadis> i.e.:
13:31 < Zelgadis> $ cd personal/synfig/source/
13:31 < Zelgadis> $ wget http://zelgadis.profusehost.net/files/synfig/synfigstudio-build-new.sh
13:31 < Zelgadis> $ bash synfigstudio-build-new.sh
13:31 < Zelgadis> That's it
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13:37 < genete> Zelgadis: just a show reel: Prologue, werewolf, morevna episode.
13:38 < Zelgadis> genete: Cool! These days I'm preparingMorevna demo reel for Anime Boston 2010. Maybe I will manage to finish some "beta" today. What do you think?
13:39 < genete> it would be great!!
13:39 < genete> anyway the snapshots are good enough to show
13:40 < genete> I plan just impress them about what synfig does and then start the boring part ;)
13:40 < Zelgadis> I can make latest snapshot.
13:40 < Zelgadis> too
13:41 < genete> did you see the example I prepared for the workshop?
13:41 < Zelgadis> genete: Please tell me "the deadline time" - when I can send you videos.
13:41 < Zelgadis> genete: I didn't ^___^''
13:41 < genete> do not send videos but links
13:41 < Zelgadis> yeah, yeah
13:42 < genete> dead line is tomorrow 17:00h
13:42 < genete> now I have 13:42
13:42 < genete> watch the example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4akilsBsxps
13:42 < Zelgadis> 17:00 your local time?
13:42 < genete> right
13:42 < Zelgadis> ok. It's 22:00 for me. Good.
13:43 < Zelgadis> @dog: cool one
13:44 < Zelgadis> Also, dpic asked me to write 3 paragraphs about synfig and morevna. I can send you for review if you will want something to add.
13:44 < Zelgadis> (And if you have time)
13:44 < genete> sure, for Boston show?
13:44 < Zelgadis> yeah
13:44 < genete> cool send it to me
13:45 < genete> I have time this night
13:45 < Zelgadis> http://doctormo.deviantart.com/art/DRAFT-Ubuntu-AnimeBos-Flyer-1-156027211
13:45 < Zelgadis> http://doctormo.deviantart.com/art/DRAFT-Ubuntu-AnimeBos-Flyer-2-156028757
13:45 < Zelgadis> ^^^ their current drafts
13:45 < genete> with dpic permit of course
13:47 < genete> quick thoughts: Paste a screenshot of Morevna and one modern layuot
13:47 < genete> the prologue kid is cool but a bit outdated IMHO
13:47 < Zelgadis> I thought about that too
13:47 < genete> we should review the historical: "Synfig is a powerful industrial-strenght..."
13:48 < genete> to something more user oriented
13:48 < genete> I am day by day more willing to improve synfig for user oriented than for cool hiden featured ;)
13:49 < genete> regarding to the text there is not much more space to tell other thing. That old statements are fine there
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13:50 < Zelgadis> I rewrited those paragraphs.
13:50 < Zelgadis> Not done yet, though.
13:54 < Zelgadis> BTW, I have no time to review new icons, but I have one thought:
13:54 < Zelgadis> It's better to use synfig logo instead of random white shape in many of them.
13:55 < genete> random white shape?
13:55 < Zelgadis> aha
13:55 < genete> the three squares?
13:55 < genete> the default icon is a generic layer icon
13:55 < genete> which is three overlapping white like squares
13:56 < Zelgadis> mmm... http://synfig.org/forums/download/file.php?id=872
13:57 < genete> ah
13:57 < genete> use the synfig logo as something to deform by the distorters
13:57 < genete> it would be so small in some situations
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13:58 < genete> I agree that it must be consistent but the synfig logo... uhg
13:58 < Zelgadis> ^__^
13:58 < genete> too much detail for a shape to distort :)
14:00 < genete> anyway we can just adopt the very best ones
14:00 < genete> or anyone
14:00 < genete> or all
14:00 < Zelgadis> Still, lots of good works there.
14:00 < genete> yeah
14:00 < genete> I like some of them. Just a bit of tangoinization and they're done!
14:02 < Zelgadis> At the end - no hurry to include all of them. It's better to include definitive winners ~_^
14:02 < genete> right
14:02 < Zelgadis> Did you made up your mind about release number?
14:09 < genete> yep
14:10 < genete> 0.62.00000001 :-P
14:10 < Zelgadis> And the winner is....
14:10 < rore> 1.0 :)
14:10  * rore hides
14:10  * Zelgadis sure rore have her own branch of synfig
14:11 < genete> there are some cool features but not any mayor one so it will be 0.62.01
14:11 < Zelgadis> I agree
14:11 < genete> but a dragon is mandatory in the splash so... 
14:11 < genete> :-P 
14:12 < Zelgadis> ^________^
14:12 < genete> seriously, for the next one splash I think that only with mayor releases there would be a splash contest
14:13 < genete> because it happens like that in most of the applications
14:13 < Zelgadis> But that's not fun! (I have nothing against your dragon)
14:14 < genete> I like contests! but I think that it looks like inestability?!
14:14 < genete> maybe I'm wrong I don't know
14:14 < genete> anyway new splash for this one!!! \o/
14:15 < Zelgadis> Instability? You just don't know how kids are happy, when they see new splash on their PC's!
14:15 < genete> hahahah
14:16 < Zelgadis> They shout "Whoa! New version!"
14:16 < genete> yes, I clean the memory cache just to watch the splash carefully when it slow charges for the first time ;)
14:16 < Zelgadis> ...and they don't care that the difference between development snapshot installed before and the new release is just few minor commits.
14:16 < genete> hahhah
14:16 < Zelgadis> ^____^
14:17 < genete> and we have Italian translation now!!!
14:17 < Zelgadis> Just that: "Whoa, new release!" And everyone is happy.
14:17 < genete> one sad thing: NOBODY has reply to the miling list email I sent a few days ago... 
14:18 < genete> nobody! neither the regulars!!! 
14:18 < genete> mailing*
14:19 < genete> maybe nobody is suscribed?
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14:25 < genete> sorry for the speech... it is the stress of the workshop ;)
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16:52 < rore> grmpf, no way get the mailing-list as a feed :/ (given that I never send emails there, I wished to be able to see new messages easily without subscribing)
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18:22 < CIA-53> MorevnaProject: Konstantin Dmitriev master * r18fc0af20dbc demo/48/ (48-draft.sif 48.sif): 48: Compose soldier with background. Camera shaking.
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